Bonehead call

[tbarron]

I guess I had a brain fart. Team A had the ball and team B's coach called a timeout. My partner thinks thought this should be a technical but I can't find it in the rule book. Lil help?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tbarron

I guess I had a brain fart. Team A had the ball and team B's coach called a timeout. My partner thinks thought this should be a technical but I can't find it in the rule book. Lil help?

And where does he get the idea that it should be a technical foul?
Case play 5.8.3E, swallow your pride and grant the timeout. We've all done it.

[representing]

this was a discussion I started earlier.

Once you grant a time out, even erroneously, it cannot be taken back. Charge the coach with a time out and start the time out period.

After time out, start the ball out-of-bounds closest to the spot of the ball when play was dead, and give the ball back to the team who had possession.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by tbarron

I guess I had a brain fart. Team A had the ball and team B's coach called a timeout. My partner thinks thought this should be a technical but I can't find it in the rule book. Lil help?

Did you grant it or ignore it?

[JRutledge]

Do not beat yourself up; we have all probably done something like this at one time or another.

Heck last night one of my partners (and a good friend) blew his whistle to stop play after a FT to bring in a sub. Then he yelled "SUUUUUBBB!!!" and no one was at the table. My other partner (another good friend of his and mine) started laughing at him big time without losing it all together. Because everyone was looking around trying to figure out who was at the table. And we clowned on him the entire way back from the game about what he did.

To his credit this was a doubleheader and this happen during the JV game. One of the kids started to go off the bench and go up some stairs to go with the varsity team. He saw this and assumed this player was going in the game. But when he blew the whistle, the kid was long gone (up the stair and out the gym). And this is a very experienced official and we had a very good laugh about the situation. You have to be able to laugh at yourself and have fun sometimes.


Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by representing

this was a discussion I started earlier.

Once you grant a time out, even erroneously, it cannot be taken back. Charge the coach with a time out and start the time out period.

After time out, start the ball out-of-bounds closest to the spot of the ball when play was dead, and give the ball back to the team who had possession.

You could make this into an accidental whistle if you know you were wrong immediately. But by rule if you grant the timeout incorrectly, you have to live with it.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tbarron

I guess I had a brain fart. Team A had the ball and team B's coach called a timeout. My partner thinks thought this should be a technical but I can't find it in the rule book. Lil help?

It's an epidemic!

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You could make this into an accidental whistle if you know you were wrong immediately. But by rule if you grant the timeout incorrectly, you have to live with it.

Peace

And once you've blown the whistle, even though it's an IW, the ball is dead and either team may request and be granted a time out. So once you've blown the whistle, you're stuck with it.

[Adam]

And if you don't charge B with the timeout, you've potentially given them an advantage without having to pay the proper price.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by tbarron

I guess I had a brain fart. Team A had the ball and team B's coach called a timeout. My partner thinks thought this should be a technical but I can't find it in the rule book. Lil help?

It could be a T, if B was already out of timeouts.......

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by grunewar

It could be a T, if B was already out of timeouts.......

Ah, but that would not be "this" (from the OP).

[Jim Henry]

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Jim Henry

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

I have been fooled by the "5 Out" play as well. But in this case, if you really just misheard the coach and he never actually did request a timeout, and he doesn't want one, you can just play on at POI. Don't charge the guy for a timeout because you can't hear.

[mathuc]

Originally Posted by Jim Henry

Sort of happened to me last night.

Visitor's coach is yelling "5-out, 5-out" but I hear "Time Out." It was his last time out with about 1:30 to go in game. They are up by 10 points.

He gives me a strange look and I said "Coach that's your last time out." Scorer says, "Coach said 5 out." Nevertheless he got a time out. Next time down the court he yells "6 out." I'm not confused this time!

Lesson learned (I hope)... Coach needs to use better commands and I need to look at the coach before I call the TO.

I've had that happen before. You should not charge him with a time out because of your error (unless he requests one during the dead ball time). Own up to it and be honest about it. ESPECIALLY since your scorer confirmed that he was not requesting a time out...

[Jim Henry]

Originally Posted by mathuc

I've had that happen before. You should not charge him with a time out because of your error (unless he requests one during the dead ball time). Own up to it and be honest about it. ESPECIALLY since your scorer confirmed that he was not requesting a time out...

I actaully think I would of done this. But he did not say a thing to me; he just took the time out. The way it was going with this guy, (first game was an A game and I gave him a T) I was surprised he didn't complain. But his B team was winning and it was almost over.