Over and back rule

[dbmcubs21]

This question stems from two calls I have seen made in the past few weeks: one in a Big Ten game and one in an intramural game. The call in question is the over and back call. I know all the good stuff about the three points and so on, but my question deals more with the actual possession of the ball.

In both cases the ball was tipped back on a rebound attempt by a member of the shooting team. In the Big Ten game it was a free throw attempt and the intramural game was on a field goal attempt. The rebounder slapped the ball backwards and it was recovered by the "shooting" teams only to be called over and back in both situations.

The intramural call was against my team and they turned to me to ask if it was the correct call (I'm an IM official as well) I told some of my teammates it was the correct call (based on what I had seen in the Big Ten matchup a few weeks ago). Anyone have a good answer for this? Correct call or not and why?

[just another ref]

If the ball was merely tipped or slapped, this was not the correct call because there was no team control in the frontcourt.

[APG]

Are you sure it happened as you said in the Big Ten game? Cause for an official at that level to miss such an easy call is hard to fathom. Perhaps, there was a moment where a player held the ball briefly?

[dbmcubs21]

I'm fairly certain about the big ten game, It was an IU game I was at and I complained about the call at the time but decided in my head it must have been correct because as you said a Big Ten official wouldn't miss that. I guess he felt that the player had enough control of the ball that he "threw/passed" it back out.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by dbmcubs21

I'm fairly certain about the big ten game, It was an IU game I was at and I complained about the call at the time but decided in my head it must have been correct because as you said a Big Ten official wouldn't miss that. I guess he felt that the player had enough control of the ball that he "threw/passed" it back out.

That's the only thing that comes to mind.

[stiffler3492]

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[Blindolbat]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Are you sure it happened as you said in the Big Ten game? Cause for an official at that level to miss such an easy call is hard to fathom. Perhaps, there was a moment where a player held the ball briefly?

Ha. Saw it happen in a Pac-10 game last week. Over and back right in front of one of the officials. No call. All of a sudden the official from across the court realizes there wasn't going to be a call so he blew his whistle and ran in from about 40 feet away with the correct call. The guy who should've made the call just stood there dumbfounded for a couple seconds and then shook his head like, "oops, I guess I should've called that."