Fan Celebration

[LeeBallanfant]

Watching the Michigan-Wisconsin game made me think of this question.

With time winding down in 2nd half V lead H by 2 points. With less than a second to go, but before expiration of time H player launches a three right near the 3 point line. Official throws hands in air signifying three points as time expires. H fans rush on court to celebrate, but officials wish to consult monitor.
Wisely waiting 5 minutes until all fans are cleared off court they go to monitor and see that it should be a 2 point shot sending game into OT.

Start OT with a T?

[grunewar]

I can't believe how many times this same issue has come up this season........ Ting the fans........?!

[APG]

Not in my wildest dreams

[APG]

Crowd rushes court

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Crowd rushes court

So this NCAA casebook play is just lip service:

A.R. 252. Team B leads, 67-66. A1’s two-point try for goal is successful,
but there is no indication that time has expired. Assuming that
the successful try was a game-ending and winning goal:
105
RULE 10 / FOULS AND PENALTIES
(1) Bench personnel from Team A; or
(2) Fans from Team A go onto the playing court to celebrate.
RULING: When the celebration causes a delay by preventing the ball
from being promptly made live or prevents continuous play:
(1) (Men) A CLASS B technical foul shall be assessed to the head
coach. The coach’s technical foul does not count toward the team foul
total but does count toward the coach’s ejection.
(Women) One bench technical foul shall be assessed to the offending
team and counts toward the team foul total. This technical foul is also
charged indirectly to the head coach and counts toward the coach’s
ejection.
(2) An administrative technical foul shall be assessed to the offending
team. (Men) This CLASS B technical foul does not apply to the team
foul total. (Women) This administrative technical foul does apply to
the team foul total.
Any player from Team B shall attempt the two free-throws and play
shall resume at the point of interruption. When the celebration does
not delay or interfere with play, the celebration shall be ignored.
(Rule 10-2.9.d and Penalty, 10-4.7 and Penalty, and 10-6.2.h and
Penalty)

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

So this NCAA casebook play is just lip service:

In my games, yes. I've never even seen an NCAA rulebook, let alone a casebook.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

Watching the Michigan-Wisconsin game made me think of this question.

With time winding down in 2nd half V lead H by 2 points. With less than a second to go, but before expiration of time H player launches a three right near the 3 point line. Official throws hands in air signifying three points as time expires. H fans rush on court to celebrate, but officials wish to consult monitor.
Wisely waiting 5 minutes until all fans are cleared off court they go to monitor and see that it should be a 2 point shot sending game into OT.

Start OT with a T?

Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant

So this NCAA casebook play is just lip service:

A.R. 252. Team B leads, 67-66. A1’s two-point try for goal is successful,
but there is no indication that time has expired.

It seems that this case is not applicable.

[APG]

That case book plays says there's no indication that time has expired. That's why that case book play is applicable.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That case book plays says there's no indication that time has expired. That's why that case book play is applicable.

No, it's not.

If the fans rushing the court don't delay the game, there's no T. In the OP, time expired before / as the fnas rushed the court. There was no delay (delay here is NOT a delay in starting the OT, but in preventing the other team from inbounding the ball).

[APG]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, it's not.

If the fans rushing the court don't delay the game, there's no T. In the OP, time expired before / as the fnas rushed the court. There was no delay (delay here is NOT a delay in starting the OT, but in preventing the other team from inbounding the ball).

Just went back and read the end part of the case book play.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

In my games, yes. I've never even seen an NCAA rulebook, let alone a casebook.

Startdevelopfinish.com has the 2010-2011 NCAA Rulebook available to browse through.

[ThatOneRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, it's not.

If the fans rushing the court don't delay the game, there's no T. In the OP, time expired before / as the fans rushed the court. There was no delay (delay here is NOT a delay in starting the OT, but in preventing the other team from inbounding the ball).

Gota agree with bob here. You cant really asses a delay when there's no time left on the clock(also the score board states an obvious victor). Just a bad idea to T the fans at this point. Will NOT work out in your favor

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ThatOneRef

Gota agree with bob here. You cant really asses a delay when there's no time left on the clock(also the score board states an obvious victor). Just a bad idea to T the fans at this point. Will NOT work out in your favor

I only recommend calling a T on the fans if it is a double T and both teams already have 10 fouls.