Nova / Syracuse rescinded intentional

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

You sure? I saw Jamie Luckie on the floor.

No, you didn't.

Syracuse Orange vs Villanova Wildcats - February 21, 2011 - College Basketball - StatSheet.com

http://suathletics.syr.edu/documents...21.pdf?id=4862

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

No, you didn't.

Syracuse Orange vs Villanova Wildcats - February 21, 2011 - College Basketball - StatSheet.com

http://suathletics.syr.edu/documents...21.pdf?id=4862

Fair enough, my bad. They look alike. You should tell Sean McDonough then too.

[jbduke]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Fair enough, my bad. They look alike. You should tell Sean McDonough then too.

It wasn't your bad. Doesn't matter what any website or box score says, Ed Corbett was not on that court tonight, at least not during any highlights ESPN showed.

Crew was indeed Cahill, Luckie, and Stephens. And FWIW, Luckie was the C to Stephens's L on the rescinded intentional foul.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by jbduke

It wasn't your bad. Doesn't matter what any website or box score says, Ed Corbett was not on that court tonight, at least not during any highlights ESPN showed.

Crew was indeed Cahill, Luckie, and Stephens. And FWIW, Luckie was the C to Stephens's L on the rescinded intentional foul.

Now I'm just plain confused. The box score and Stat Sheet says Ed Corbett, but you and Sean McDonough say Jamie Luckie...

[jbduke]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Now I'm just plain confused. The box score and Stat Sheet says Ed Corbett, but you and Sean McDonough say Jamie Luckie...

One of these men has probably the second-sleightest build of any of the top-level DI officials (Mike Sanzere). The other is Jamie Luckie.

Mistaking Corbett for Luckie would be like mistaking John Stockton for Billy Paultz.

In other words, I know who I saw

[GoodwillRef]

It was Luckie...not Corbett.

[mbyron]

Video here (don't see an embed code, sorry):

Syracuse Orange vs. Villanova Wildcats - Recap - February 21, 2011 - ESPN

[Jurassic Referee]

According to this report, the official denied making the intentional foul call in the first place. Unfortunately for him, his signal for that call was caught on tape. The speculation was that he was over-ruled.

The disappearing intentional foul: Syracuse's win over Villanova was full of bizarre plays | syracuse.com

[Adam]

Is it possible he signaled, then retracted the intentional right away only to go look at the tape?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Is it possible he signaled, then retracted the intentional right away only to go look at the tape?

Who knows? The only facts we know for sure is that he gave the signal for an intentional foul but an intentional foul was never assessed. And that's what looks bad. Methinks he was awfully lucky that Syracuse ended up winning. That lessens the speculation.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Is it possible he signaled, then retracted the intentional right away only to go look at the tape?

They went to the video after they retracted the intentional to determine whether or not it was flargrant.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

That's my point. And I thought it was a perfectly appropriate intentional call, too. And the L clearly, *clearly* signaled the intentional.

My guess is that the C talked the L out of it and it was never reported to the table. Then they usedthe review to see if they should "upgrade" it back to an intentional or to a flagrant. If that's considered an OK way to back out of an intentional, well, what's the point of the preliminary signal in the first place?

I'd love to see Adams take on these calls.

If this is what they did then he would not be happy. He put out a video in which an official signalled a foul (apparent elbow foul) and then after replay review they rescinded the foul altogther. He didn't like that at all.

[upprdeck]

why did they not call the violation in the game when the Vill player reached over the end line and stopped the inbounds pass? Triche was asking for the call to be made. I dont think i have ever seen it called in a game and it happens all the time under the basket. in our local games this year we have had several times where the D has knocked the ball out of the in bounds players hands with no call.. seems like a pretty simple rule to enforce but seldom does.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by upprdeck

why did they not call the violation in the game when the Vill player reached over the end line and stopped the inbounds pass? Triche was asking for the call to be made. I dont think i have ever seen it called in a game and it happens all the time under the basket. in our local games this year we have had several times where the D has knocked the ball out of the in bounds players hands with no call.. seems like a pretty simple rule to enforce but seldom does.

Didn't see the play, so this is just a question: Did the defender reach across before or after the pass was released?

Also, WRT your local games; usually what happens when it's no-called is the thrower has reached the ball over the OOB plane.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by upprdeck

why did they not call the violation in the game when the Vill player reached over the end line and stopped the inbounds pass? Triche was asking for the call to be made. I dont think i have ever seen it called in a game and it happens all the time under the basket. in our local games this year we have had several times where the D has knocked the ball out of the in bounds players hands with no call.. seems like a pretty simple rule to enforce but seldom does.

High School rules it would be a Tech, not a violation, if a player reaches across and knocks ball out of thrower's hands. It is nothing if a player reaches across and knocks down a inbound pass when the ball is out of the thrower's hands. Not sure what NCAA is.