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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 12:10pm
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'No opponent shall disconcert the free thrower.'
I had a fellow official that reissued a missed free throw because the Cheerleaders were cheering during a free throw.
I have Players on the court, Bench personel and Head Coaches that come closer to this violation then the cheerleaders.
It is official...commonsense is dead and buried.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 12:15pm
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 12:26pm
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Some areas have a rule on where cheerleaders are allowed to be. If this is such an area, and if the cheerleaders were, say, under A's basket (and that's not an allowed spot), then I can perhaps see the ruling.

Of course, I'd try to dela with that before the FT was administered,
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Many times I've seen chearleaders on the endline to the side of their team's basket, so, no issues there.

I've had coaches and players disconcert; I've seen other players walk the endline; I've heard a band drummer hit his drum (ball went in, told him not to do that again); I had one this yr where the PA music "accidentally" went on SUPER LOUD in the middle of a FT - unfortunatey, it was home team shooting (disconcert themselves?).

My least favorite was when one of my P's called disconcertion on a H fan at the other end of the gym and awarded another FT for V.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 01:11pm
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As long as they aren't profane, I say they can be as loud as they want. They're fans.

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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:20pm
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Some areas have a rule on where cheerleaders are allowed to be. If this is such an area, and if the cheerleaders were, say, under A's basket (and that's not an allowed spot), then I can perhaps see the ruling.

Of course, I'd try to dela with that before the FT was administered,
I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:28pm
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Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:40pm
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I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible.
It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

The other option, of course, is that I'm not, and never claimed to be, infallible or anything close to it.

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Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?
:shaking head "no":
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:45pm
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[QUOTE=bob jenkins;731708]It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Man, I have to roll my boots up another level. Great come back!
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It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I think I saw something about that on PBS last week.
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It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

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Bob listens to hip hop???

And no one ever claimed Bob was infallible. Just that we should always listen to Bob. Even when he's wrong about something, he comes up with the best explanations for his answers!
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:45pm
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Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?
One can visually and verbally disconcert.
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Old Sat Feb 19, 2011, 09:09am
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I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible.
The slogan is "Always listen to Bob." Pronounce "dela" with a long A, and you're all set.
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Does a disconcertion violation require a delayed violation signal?
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Old Sat Feb 19, 2011, 12:38pm
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Does a disconcertion violation require a delayed violation signal?
The signal is for a delayed lane violation. I wouldn't classify disconcertion as a lane violation but rather a free throw violation. I sometimes still use it though out of habit on this type of play.
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