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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:40pm
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I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible.
It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

The other option, of course, is that I'm not, and never claimed to be, infallible or anything close to it.

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Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?
:shaking head "no":
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:45pm
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[QUOTE=bob jenkins;731708]It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Man, I have to roll my boots up another level. Great come back!
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 05:25pm
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It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I think I saw something about that on PBS last week.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 05:40pm
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It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

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Bob listens to hip hop???

And no one ever claimed Bob was infallible. Just that we should always listen to Bob. Even when he's wrong about something, he comes up with the best explanations for his answers!
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 07:04pm
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verbal and nonverbal disconcertion...

So the "twinkling fingers" from opponents on the lane, or the "foot stomping" from the defender outside the arc (who is more than just tapping his shoe into place) Etc.... = Disconcertion so you warn and award another free-throw, if it continues whack-ola. ?
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 08:09pm
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So the "twinkling fingers" from opponents on the lane, or the "foot stomping" from the defender outside the arc (who is more than just tapping his shoe into place) Etc.... = Disconcertion so you warn and award another free-throw, if it continues whack-ola. ?
Does the rule say you should warn? And what do you mean by "whack-ola"?

Do you know what the penalty for disconcertion is?
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 08:27pm
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Does the rule say you should warn? And what do you mean by "whack-ola"?

Do you know what the penalty for disconcertion is?

I am guessing there is no warning.
9-1-5 disconcertion = Technical Foul.

Just thinking in a rec game, say, 8th grade boys, I could see going with awarding another free throw and warning them any further disconcertion would result in a T.

But if I am getting your point, there is nothing giving me the authority to warn rather than "whack". "Whack-ola" = T-foul.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 08:46pm
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The penalty for disconcertion is awarding another free throw if it is missed. It is ignored if the free throw is made. Could you issue a techincail foul for the specfic action? Sure, but there's no reason to go looking for a reason to whack.

If it's close to disconcertion, you can warn. If they disconcert, enforce.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 09:14pm
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The penalty for disconcertion is awarding another free throw if it is missed. It is ignored if the free throw is made. Could you issue a techincail foul for the specfic action? Sure, but there's no reason to go looking for a reason to whack.

If it's close to disconcertion, you can warn. If they disconcert, enforce.
That is my take on this issue too.

As with a lane violation (defense) if basket is good, we just move on. Jurassic had me thinking I may not have a leg to stand on by awarding another free-throw for disconcerting the shooter. Made it sound like I either had to T up or ignore. I honestly don't have a current NFHS book, nor do I officiate Association games (yet).

I have in fact awarded another free-throw for disconcertion, but have never T'd a player for it. Do my best to talk em out of trouble. If they get a T from me they usually had it coming 10mins ago.
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