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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:20pm
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Some areas have a rule on where cheerleaders are allowed to be. If this is such an area, and if the cheerleaders were, say, under A's basket (and that's not an allowed spot), then I can perhaps see the ruling.

Of course, I'd try to dela with that before the FT was administered,
I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:28pm
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Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:40pm
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I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible.
It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

The other option, of course, is that I'm not, and never claimed to be, infallible or anything close to it.

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Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?
:shaking head "no":
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:45pm
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[QUOTE=bob jenkins;731708]It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Man, I have to roll my boots up another level. Great come back!
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 05:25pm
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It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I think I saw something about that on PBS last week.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 05:40pm
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It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

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Bob listens to hip hop???

And no one ever claimed Bob was infallible. Just that we should always listen to Bob. Even when he's wrong about something, he comes up with the best explanations for his answers!
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 07:04pm
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verbal and nonverbal disconcertion...

So the "twinkling fingers" from opponents on the lane, or the "foot stomping" from the defender outside the arc (who is more than just tapping his shoe into place) Etc.... = Disconcertion so you warn and award another free-throw, if it continues whack-ola. ?
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 08:09pm
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So the "twinkling fingers" from opponents on the lane, or the "foot stomping" from the defender outside the arc (who is more than just tapping his shoe into place) Etc.... = Disconcertion so you warn and award another free-throw, if it continues whack-ola. ?
Does the rule say you should warn? And what do you mean by "whack-ola"?

Do you know what the penalty for disconcertion is?
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 08:27pm
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Does the rule say you should warn? And what do you mean by "whack-ola"?

Do you know what the penalty for disconcertion is?

I am guessing there is no warning.
9-1-5 disconcertion = Technical Foul.

Just thinking in a rec game, say, 8th grade boys, I could see going with awarding another free throw and warning them any further disconcertion would result in a T.

But if I am getting your point, there is nothing giving me the authority to warn rather than "whack". "Whack-ola" = T-foul.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 04:45pm
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Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?
One can visually and verbally disconcert.
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I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible.
The slogan is "Always listen to Bob." Pronounce "dela" with a long A, and you're all set.
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Old Sat Feb 19, 2011, 12:16pm
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Does a disconcertion violation require a delayed violation signal?
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Old Sat Feb 19, 2011, 12:38pm
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Does a disconcertion violation require a delayed violation signal?
The signal is for a delayed lane violation. I wouldn't classify disconcertion as a lane violation but rather a free throw violation. I sometimes still use it though out of habit on this type of play.
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Old Sat Feb 19, 2011, 01:09pm
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The signal is for a delayed lane violation.
Interesting. I hadn't noticed that description before. I think (my opinion) it's an "error" and should be used for all delayed FT violations.
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Old Sat Feb 19, 2011, 01:29pm
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Interesting. I hadn't noticed that description before. I think (my opinion) it's an "error" and should be used for all delayed FT violations.
I could see that. NCAA-M and NCAA-W both have the signal as "delayed dead ball: withheld whistle."
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