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Zoochy Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:04am

9-1-3c
 
'No opponent shall disconcert the free thrower.'
I had a fellow official that reissued a missed free throw because the Cheerleaders were cheering during a free throw. :eek:
I have Players on the court, Bench personel and Head Coaches that come closer to this violation then the cheerleaders.

YooperRef Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:09am

Stretch Armstrong...
 
Seems to be stretching the rule a bit. Out of curiousity, any idea where the cheerleaders were standing?

APG Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:13am

Did your partner also rule disconcertion anytime the opposing fans tried distracting the free thrower shooter and he missed?

Adam Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:52am

Had a partner once ask for the ball back and re-administer in a Freshman girls game because the boys team was walking along the endline to cross the court.

GoodwillRef Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 731584)
'No opponent shall disconcert the free thrower.'
I had a fellow official that reissued a missed free throw because the Cheerleaders were cheering during a free throw. :eek:
I have Players on the court, Bench personel and Head Coaches that come closer to this violation then the cheerleaders.

It is official...commonsense is dead and buried.

Adam Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:15pm

Gives you practice on how to back your partner during a tough situation.

bob jenkins Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:26pm

Some areas have a rule on where cheerleaders are allowed to be. If this is such an area, and if the cheerleaders were, say, under A's basket (and that's not an allowed spot), then I can perhaps see the ruling.

Of course, I'd try to dela with that before the FT was administered,

grunewar Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:35pm

Many times I've seen chearleaders on the endline to the side of their team's basket, so, no issues there.

I've had coaches and players disconcert; I've seen other players walk the endline; I've heard a band drummer hit his drum (ball went in, told him not to do that again); I had one this yr where the PA music "accidentally" went on SUPER LOUD in the middle of a FT - unfortunatey, it was home team shooting (disconcert themselves?).

My least favorite was when one of my P's called disconcertion on a H fan at the other end of the gym and awarded another FT for V. :confused:

DesMoines Fri Feb 18, 2011 01:11pm

Unless you're Tiger...
 
As long as they aren't profane, I say they can be as loud as they want. They're fans.

Per stripes: This isn't golf.

rsl Fri Feb 18, 2011 04:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 731613)
Some areas have a rule on where cheerleaders are allowed to be. If this is such an area, and if the cheerleaders were, say, under A's basket (and that's not an allowed spot), then I can perhaps see the ruling.

Of course, I'd try to dela with that before the FT was administered,

I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible. :)

NoFussRef Fri Feb 18, 2011 04:28pm

Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?

bob jenkins Fri Feb 18, 2011 04:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl (Post 731698)
I see a typo. I thought Bob was infallible. :)

It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

The other option, of course, is that I'm not, and never claimed to be, infallible or anything close to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoFussRef (Post 731702)
Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?

:shaking head "no":

Loudwhistle2 Fri Feb 18, 2011 04:45pm

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;731708]It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Man, I have to roll my boots up another level. Great come back!

APG Fri Feb 18, 2011 04:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoFussRef (Post 731702)
Since we're talking disconcertion...

Does it have to verbal?

One can visually and verbally disconcert.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 18, 2011 05:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 731708)
It's a slang term referring to the hip hop group De La Soul, who influenced many other artists. When you "dela with" something (or someone), you try to influence them to do what you want without resorting to a rule-based punishment (in this example, ruling disconcertion).

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

I think I saw something about that on PBS last week. ;)


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