Judgement v Missed Rule

[Adam]

You've got to be 100% sure he kicked a rule before even talking to him, IMO. If you think there's a possibility that he judged it differently (and you did here), then let it go.

[hawkeyegb]

keep in mind guys that he said it was a rookie....I am more apt to offer advice to a rookie in this type of situation then I would a person who has been on the court 3-5 years.

[referee99]

... I would try to get to my rookie partner's earshot and ask "did we establish team control??", prompting him to dialog. I would offer information and encourage/let them decide.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You've got to be 100% sure he kicked a rule before even talking to him, IMO. If you think there's a possibility that he judged it differently (and you did here), then let it go.

Yes! I should have added that I would have to be 100%.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Yes! I should have added that I would have to be 100%.

Right, and it seems here there was some doubt as to the nature of his error. If there's even a chance it might be judgment, as you indicated, I'll let it go and ask him later what he saw on that play. Only if there's zero chance that it was a judgment error will I approach him during the game.

[jeffpea]

the days of "it's not in my area so it's not my business" are over....get the call right is, and should be, the goal for officials...

[tref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

the days of "it's not in my area so it's not my business" are over....get the call right is, and should be, the goal for officials...

Really!! Depending on the level of ball one works & what type of camps (if any) one attends, "dont call in my area" can be quite the norm

I always thought the goal was to officiate engaged matchups in our PCA while knowing where our partners are, the ball is & as many of the players on the court as possible. Hell, I even like to be aware when a sub gets up off the bench & heads to the table...

[Adam]

There are more reasons to leave this alone than to deal with it on the court; assuming you think it could possibly be a judgment call.

[tref]

Snaqs, is OOB violations a judgment call?

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

the days of "it's not in my area so it's not my business" are over....get the call right is, and should be, the goal for officials...

So if you're watching your partner's primary area of coverage (not dual area), then who is watching yours?

My conference assignor has instructed his staff: if you call out of your primary area, it better be for a non-basketball play.

[tref]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

So if you're watching your partner's primary area of coverage (not dual area), then who is watching yours?.

see post #17

Originally Posted by dahoopref

My conference assignor has instructed his staff: if you call out of your primary area, it better be for a non-basketball play.

It is what it is...

[JRutledge]

I have no problem with getting it right, but there is a right way to do that. If it is judgment calls we need to live with those. Officials get those wrong often. The only way I would give information is if I saw the entire play and I know it was one way and my partner had another way and we have some dual or coverage where I would see something. I am just not going to split hairs and try to correct a judgment call. I have to know a rule was kicked, not think a rule was kicked. And I believe we can learn from a situation that we talk about in the locker room. Might realize we did not see the entire play as we thought. But the court is not the time to correct everything or we do not need to be out there.

Peace

[26 Year Gap]

I know that the BC exception is for the player who is 'receiving' the inbound pass. There may be a case play for this scenario if it was a FC endline throw-in. Since A2 touched it [if A2 was in FC] then A2 could retrieve it in BC without violation. Not sure if that would extend to A3, though. Even if A2 had not controlled it.