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Didn't handle a situation very well last night in a state tournament game and would like opinions(please sir may I have another)
I call foul and report, we are shooting two I turn to face basket, players are not getting lined up, fouling team is now starting to huddle near bench behind me(time frame about 2-3 seconds) I turn around and table then tells me five fouls. I tell coach who already knew, and is busy 'coaching' I turn and signal to partners five fouls and tell table to start clock. First horn blows and the R for game starts walking to table telling coach lets go, coach who is not happy to begin with is barking "I get 20 seconds" I tell partner I've got it, they continue the dialogue and now second horn goes off and coach is in my ear that he didn't have time to set up play as other official was 'barking' at him. We administer free throws and coach is still percolating over scenario. IMO in retrospect, table not buzzing distracted me somewhat. I should have communicated better to partners for fifth foul as they both seemed in the dark which would have prevented R coming to table which was unnecessary. New player had aready reported so we were good there. I"m thinking I could have walked to R and told him, relax, I've got it, although I did repeat I've got it,five fouls. This would have bought coach the few seconds he was looking for. Bottom line, he felt rushed, maybe rightfully so. It was at critical time in a close game. That said, if coach would have ignored other official( as coaches tend to do when we're yelling let's go, etc.) he would have had his extra few seconds. To my eye it was sloppy. Last edited by fullor30; Wed Feb 16, 2011 at 02:20pm. |
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2) When in all this did the sub report? That's when the "time to talk to the team" ends, despite what the coach says about his/her 20 seconds. 3) Be REALLY CLEAR on notifying your partners. 4) Be REALLY CLEAR on notifying your partners. |
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Regarding # 2), good point and I honestly don't recall. I know he was milking it though. Bob, I've been on the other end and not knowing the situation, I 'stand down' and let table official handle unless I'm beckoned. Thoughts? |
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If the player is not on the X (not on his way to the X) by the 2nd horn... WHACK! No PA guy? No player fouls on the board? Where are these guys playing, at the wreck center? ![]()
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He was posting here most likely.
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But, if, for example, the sub had already reported (and, heck, maybe even entered) and the administering official didn't see it; or if the official looks lost; or the opposing coach had already complained (perhaps earlier) about the "delay" and I was trying to head off trouble, or ... Then, I might try to get involved, but the manner in which I did so would depend on the game and my partners. |
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This is not even something I would agonize over. It sounds like there was some confusion. Communicate and go on. If the coach wants to get upset about what an official told them, that is there problem. I would not care about that at all. Of course you could have communicated better, but I am sure the coach knew the deal and was trying to get an advantage. This is not a critical issue and if the coach wants to explain things to players he should call a timeout.
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Perhaps I overlooked it but it wasn't clear to me in the situation whether the partner did or did not know that a DQ had just occurred or whether he was just rushing the coach for some other reason.
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The fact that you analize "how could I have handled that better" the morning after, speak volumes! Congrats on getting the game!!
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You should "hand off" all foul outs to one of your partners. As soon as you know it is 5, you should let a non-calling official notify the player, the coach, and start the clock. It removes all risk of the coach chipping at you for calling the foul, and you having to be near the table for that. Doing this may have helped your situation a little bit. |
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And your "remedy" is used in some areas, and no in others. Unless he's in an area that enforces this, then you don't know what he "should" do.
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