Judgement v Missed Rule

[tref]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Now this call is out of my primary (I'm only seeing it since it was near my sideline in the first place) and for all I know at the time, my partner feels A3 gained control before going into the backcourt. Do you confer with him or just go with his call?

Depends. Is it a gamer or a play they can recover from?

6 seconds left in a 2 point game, I'd go to him with info & it's up to them if they want to go with an IW to get it right.

3:50 left in the 1st Q I've got nothing unless they ask...

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by tref

Depends. Is it a gamer or a play they can recover from?

6 seconds left in a 2 point game, I'd go to him with info & it's up to them if they want to go with an IW to get it right.

3:50 left in the 1st Q I've got nothing unless they ask...

In this case it was 0:04 left in the 3rd of a close game.

[Nevadaref]

Don't ever question your partner on a judgment call.

If your partner kicks a rule and asks for help, you can offer your knowledge and let him decide if he needs to change it. Otherwise, it's his call and you should stay out of it.

[Adam]

You've got to be 100% sure he kicked a rule before even talking to him, IMO. If you think there's a possibility that he judged it differently (and you did here), then let it go.

[hawkeyegb]

keep in mind guys that he said it was a rookie....I am more apt to offer advice to a rookie in this type of situation then I would a person who has been on the court 3-5 years.

[referee99]

... I would try to get to my rookie partner's earshot and ask "did we establish team control??", prompting him to dialog. I would offer information and encourage/let them decide.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You've got to be 100% sure he kicked a rule before even talking to him, IMO. If you think there's a possibility that he judged it differently (and you did here), then let it go.

Yes! I should have added that I would have to be 100%.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Yes! I should have added that I would have to be 100%.

Right, and it seems here there was some doubt as to the nature of his error. If there's even a chance it might be judgment, as you indicated, I'll let it go and ask him later what he saw on that play. Only if there's zero chance that it was a judgment error will I approach him during the game.

[jeffpea]

the days of "it's not in my area so it's not my business" are over....get the call right is, and should be, the goal for officials...

[tref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

the days of "it's not in my area so it's not my business" are over....get the call right is, and should be, the goal for officials...

Really!! Depending on the level of ball one works & what type of camps (if any) one attends, "dont call in my area" can be quite the norm

I always thought the goal was to officiate engaged matchups in our PCA while knowing where our partners are, the ball is & as many of the players on the court as possible. Hell, I even like to be aware when a sub gets up off the bench & heads to the table...

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

the days of "it's not in my area so it's not my business" are over....get the call right is, and should be, the goal for officials...

So if you're watching your partner's primary area of coverage (not dual area), then who is watching yours?

My conference assignor has instructed his staff: if you call out of your primary area, it better be for a non-basketball play.