Thoughts from a coach

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

All I want to say is I watched a game this year where the officals did NOT do any of the above and the final score was 79-10. The winning team put on a FULL court press from the opening tip to the final buzzer.

I would say that is a reason why SOME officials might do what you have posted above. I'm just sayin.

What does the way any team decides to play defense have to do with the way we should officiate a game?

The coaches' coach. The players' play. And we react to what they do.

[jeffpea]

i think too many officials simply dismiss the opinions of coaches and fans without ever thinking about whether the comments have any merit....sometimes they are correct.

officials do "officiate the scoreboard" (it's human nature). coaches and fans want every call to go their way (it's human nature). officials get calls wrong (we're not perfect). coaches and fans let their emotions led to crazy assumptions (i.e. "star treatment", team favoritism, etc).

it would serve ALL officials well to take a second and determine if there is any validity to the criticism they receive...

the person who ALWAYS thinks they're right is often wrong and will rarely improve their officiating.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

i think too many officials simply dismiss the opinions of coaches and fans without ever thinking about whether the comments have any merit....sometimes they are correct.

officials do "officiate the scoreboard" (it's human nature). coaches and fans want every call to go their way (it's human nature). officials get calls wrong (we're not perfect). coaches and fans let their emotions led to crazy assumptions (i.e. "star treatment", team favoritism, etc).

it would serve ALL officials well to take a second and determine if there is any validity to the criticism they receive...

the person who ALWAYS thinks they're right is often wrong and will rarely improve their officiating.

Dead on. To parse words and state that I advocate calling a game to placate fans and coaches is beyond stupid, and a desperate attempt to avoid the fact that we are part of the game, nothing more. I have never, ever heard criticisms of my top-rated officials that they are bigger than the game, and I get feedback from everyone, including fans who have played college basketball and others who don't have a clue. Feedback can be accepted or discarded, but when you disagree with 95% of the feedback, you most likely have an issue--it all areas of life, not just officiating.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Dead on. To parse words and state that I advocate calling a game to placate fans and coaches is beyond stupid, and a desperate attempt to avoid the fact that we are part of the game, nothing more. I have never, ever heard criticisms of my top-rated officials that they are bigger than the game, and I get feedback from everyone, including fans who have played college basketball and others who don't have a clue. Feedback can be accepted or discarded, but when you disagree with 95% of the feedback, you most likely have an issue--it all areas of life, not just officiating.

Y'all keep getting feedback from the fans. Be sure to incorporate all of that great feedback from the fans into your training also. And good luck to you. And good luck to any official that you train also. They'll need it.

'Nuff said.

[Adam]

Maybe I'll poll the fans for my next block/charge call to make sure I get it right. It'll take a little bit longer, sure, but hey, "get the call right" should be my goal, right?

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe I'll poll the fans for my next block/charge call to make sure I get it right. It'll take a little bit longer, sure, but hey, "get the call right" should be my goal, right?

How about just blowing whiste and asking nearer coach, "whatcha got?"

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe I'll poll the fans for my next block/charge call to make sure I get it right. It'll take a little bit longer, sure, but hey, "get the call right" should be my goal, right?

you simply don't get it, do you?

best of luck....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

you simply don't get it, do you?

best of luck....

I'm not going to get into a long drawn out discussion on this, but let's just say I'm far more concerned with the opinion of the actual officials in the stands than with the fans.

[Judtech]

Had a game Saturday where the fould count was 8 - 1. The coach had the usual comments about it and then said "All I want is an evenly called game and judging by the scoreboard you all are not doing that". I SOOOOOO wanted to say "Well, do you want the score evened out as well? If you gave the other team 7 points you could even that out as well." However, I just took two steps to my left!!
Later, when the foul count was 10 - 2 "That Fan" kept yelling, "You're only calling one side of the court.!!" OVER AND OVER. The radio PbP guys were at a break and I said "I WISH I was only calling one half of the court then I wouldn't have to do all this damn running". They cracked up and the *******s even used the line on the air......without giving ME any credit.!!!
Having said that, there are coaches, had two last nite, that if the have an issue with a call they may have a point and it should be addressed. IE. Had a player who kept driving endline, ending up behind the backboard and then jumping into the defender all for no call. After I explained what was happening they were fine with it and made the correction.

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Y'all keep getting feedback from the fans. Be sure to incorporate all of that great feedback from the fans into your training also. And good luck to you. And good luck to any official that you train also. They'll need it.

'Nuff said.

did you know:
- that each official selected to work the NBA playoffs graded out at approx 95% during the regular season? (which means that 15% of the crews' calls are incorrect each game)
- the officials who worked the NCAA Championship game (Duke vs Butler) were 78% accurate during that game?

clearly the BEST officials in America are wrong a surprisingly high percentage of the time...since we're NOT in the NBA or Final Four, we are incorrect a larger percentage of the time....

an official who wants to get better will listen to comments/feedback/criticism, decide if it applies or is valid, and apply it/disregard it....

what is so terrible about that?

[chartrusepengui]

95 + 15 = 100

[chartrusepengui]

Somebody's got FUZZY MATH

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

95 + 15 = 100

if each official is correct 95% of the time, that's means he's missed 5% of the calls....right?
5% incorrect X 3 officials = 15%.....

is this the same level-headed, clear-thinking judgement that you demonstrate on the floor?

i can now see why you quickly dismiss feedback/comments from others....BECAUSE IT MUST HAPPEN ALL THE TIME!!!

[tref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

what is so terrible about that?

I know what you're getting at, but fans arent the most reliable source for us improving as officials.
After most of my games, the winning teams fans smiles at you & the losing teams fans roll their eyes at you.

The only time I take what they say to heart is when the losing teams fans/coaches/players say, "good job tonight."

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by tref

I know what you're getting at, but fans arent the most reliable source for us improving as officials.
After most of my games, the winning teams fans smiles at you & the losing teams fans roll their eyes at you.

The only time I take what they say to heart is when the losing teams fans/coaches/players say, "good job tonight."

EXACTLY! you listen to the comments/feedback/criticism....decide if it's valid...and then apply it or disregard it.....

imho, it is not smart to simply dismiss immediately because of where it came from. it's the ONLY WAY to get better....

keep in mind, if you only do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always got.