player control or not

[AKOFL]

I personally didn't feel he had PC. The coach asked me why it wasn't a bc violation and I asked him to tell me where the player control was. he paused and thought for a minute and said oops thats right it was a shot. We as a crew had no problem with it. Our assignor was there and thought he had PC an the save. we agreed that it was a judgement call. just looking for some thoughts from others on what they would need to see to have PC.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

I personally didn't feel he had PC. The coach asked me why it wasn't a bc violation and I asked him to tell me where the player control was. he paused and thought for a minute and said oops thats right it was a shot. We as a crew had no problem with it. Our assignor was there and thought he had PC an the save. we agreed that it was a judgement call. just looking for some thoughts from others on what they would need to see to have PC.

Explaining to your assignor will entail more verbiage. Two choices--shut up and color or explain to him why you didn't feel there was PC.

[Camron Rust]

I assert that a player must have player control to "throw" a ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I assert that a player must have player control to "throw" a ball.

Right. Three types of saves, really.
1. Catch and ask for TO.
2. Catch and throw.
3. Bat.

In order to throw, a player must have caught it. If he catches it, even for a brief half-second long enough to throw, then it's PC.

Question for the OP: If the player did the exact same thing as a shot attempt with .2 seconds left and the horn was late, would you have counted the shot?