Team Control during Throw in

[APG]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

FIBA has TC during a TI:

• Fouls are TC fouls, so no shots.
• BC violations exist.
• When inbounding near the DL, the official must clearly announce to the thrower-in the location of the TI. AR: A BC violation is always a FC TI for the new team.
• DL TIs can use the BC.

That is a lot of abbreviations

FYI, every level of basketball save NFHS has team control during a throw-in.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That is a lot of abbreviations

FYI, every level of basketball save NFHS has team control during a throw-in.

TIL that NFHS is the only ruleset to not have TC during a TI.

[bainsey]

I vote "yes."

From a layman's perspective, the team that has the throw-in is "on offense." Yet, a "offensive foul" is not necessarily a team control foul, particularly in the case of throw-ins. I like the consistency that "all" offensive fouls result in the ball out of bounds.

Interesting timing of this question. Last night, in a well-publicized VG game where the winning team would make the tournament, Team A had a one-point lead and the throw-in with :04 left in the game. A1 committed a foul during the throw-in, resulting in two free throws for Team B. With this rule change, Team B would have to go the length of the court, instead.

Oh, she missed both free throws. Team A won.

(Aside to 26YG.... Team A: Bangor, Team B: Brewer, played at the Aud.)

[Treeguy]

I am in favor of the rule change also. I am not sure on the BC violation, I think I would like to see the BC violation as it is now, only once FC possesion is achieved in bounds.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Treeguy

I am in favor of the rule change also. I am not sure on the BC violation, I think I would like to see the BC violation as it is now, only once FC possesion is achieved in bounds.

Which, with TC on a throw in, would occur the moment someone touched the ball in the FC. That would then make it illegal to muff the throwin pass and retrieve it in the backcourt.

The backcourt rule would need to be rewritten to cover the scenario equitably.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Which, with TC on a throw in, would occur the moment someone touched the ball in the FC. That would then make it illegal to muff the throwin pass and retrieve it in the backcourt.

The backcourt rule would need to be rewritten to cover the scenario equitably.

Wouldn't be that hard. Just copy the text from the NCAA rule book.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Wouldn't be that hard. Just copy the text from the NCAA rule book.

My only concern is that they would forget to include that text. I don't know why I'm afraid of that.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That is a lot of abbrs.

FYI, every level of basketball save NFHS has team control during a throw-in.

Fixed it for ya!

[26 Year Gap]

Unlike last year, the survey at NFHS | National Federation of State High School Associations appears to be open. Pretty easy to follow the links. If you can't you shouldn't complete the survey.

[APG]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Unlike last year, the survey at NFHS | National Federation of State High School Associations appears to be open. Pretty easy to follow the links. If you can't you shouldn't complete the survey.

One of the questions asks if we should make the myth about player location during free throws with no one in the the lane and make it a rule.

I don't know why they would entertain that...except that too many officials think that's the rule. That's a shame.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

One of the questions asks if we should make the myth about player location during free throws with no one in the the lane and make it a rule.

I don't know why they would entertain that...except that too many officials think that's the rule. That's a shame.

I voted no on that one. Too bad the delay in return to the court after a throw-in was not in the survey.

[APG]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

I voted no on that one. Too bad the delay in return to the court after a throw-in was not in the survey.

I voted no as well. It just surprised me that it was on the survey. First time I can remember that being on the survey. It's a shame cause I feel like the only reason they're asking about changing the rule is because too many officials don't know the rule.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

One of the questions asks if we should make the myth about player location during free throws with no one in the the lane and make it a rule.

I don't know why they would entertain that...except that too many officials think that's the rule. That's a shame.

Yeah, I wonder how many officials taking the test thought, "I thought that was already the rule."