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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 03:26pm
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Personally, I wouldn't think it included a time period long enough for an official to get close to the reporting area with his back turned to the play.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 03:29pm
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Personally, I wouldn't think it included a time period long enough for an official to get close to the reporting area with his back turned to the play.
+1 and reporting at approximately the same time does not equate to occurring at approximately the same time.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 03:39pm
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Even if you give up "approximately the same time," which is debatable, the fouls were not committed by the opponents against each other. No way is this a double T.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 03:46pm
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Even if you give up "approximately the same time," which is debatable, the fouls were not committed by the opponents against each other. No way is this a double T.
But is does make then simultaneous technicals which are simply technicals on each team at "app. the same time".

Enforcement is the same as a double T.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 04:15pm
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But is does make then simultaneous technicals which are simply technicals on each team at "app. the same time".

Enforcement is the same as a double T.
Don't have my books with me, but is what you just said in the book? Because simultaneously does not mean "approximately the same time" - it means "the same time".
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 04:23pm
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Don't have my books with me, but is what you just said in the book? Because simultaneously does not mean "approximately the same time" - it means "the same time".
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A simultaneous foul (personal or technical) by opponents is a situation in which there is a foul by both teams which occurs at approximately the same time, but are not committed by opponents against each other.

The penalty for simultaneous fouls includes no FTs and the ball placed at the POI.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 04:25pm
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Fair enough. I stand corrected.
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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 04:29pm
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NFHS 4-19-10

A simultaneous foul (personal or technical) by opponents is a situation in which there is a foul by both teams which occurs at approximately the same time, but are not committed by opponents against each other.

The penalty for simultaneous fouls includes no FTs and the ball placed at the POI.
Yeah, but simultaneous is usually when we cannot determine which took place first or last. This is not the case here as the officials did not call them at the same time in this play. A1 reacted to the T being given. I cannot see how we can make this simultaneous.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 03:40pm
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I'm going with it being close enough related to same play. Double T. I know this is not part of OP. but do we have any help from a partner(s)? I guarantee you A not waiting a few seconds and then deciding he's gonna go over and clap in B's face.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 03:46pm
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Glad you posted this here. I was waiting for Tanner to do so.

Seems that the majority will agree with us.
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I was surprised he didn't. Then again I have a lot of free time now.

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Well, I was going to and lost track of time....before I knew what was going on it was 1pm and I hadn't gone to lunch yet.
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Well, I was going to and lost track of time....before I knew what was going on it was 1pm and I hadn't gone to lunch yet.

I never lose track of time to the point of forgetting lunch. I have to keep fuel in this well oiled machine!
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I never lose track of time to the point of forgetting lunch. I have to keep fuel in this well oiled machine!
LOL!!! That is what we call it now.

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Old Tue Feb 08, 2011, 04:06pm
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I have a shooting foul, followed by a false double. The technicals are two separate incidents.
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