T or no T - that is the question.

[Mark Padgett]

Under Fed rules, can you eject a coach without calling a technical? My partner did this in a game last night. BTW - it was an AC. Rule please. Thanks.

[jdw3018]

I don't know of any rule that would allow an official to eject a coach other than two direct Ts or a flagrant.

And, if there is a reason to eject someone why wouldn't you issue a T?

[YooperRef]

Don't have my rule book handy but my first reaction was no.

My next reaction was, Is there any rule that says you can't eject the coach without a technical?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

i don't know of any rule that would allow an official to eject a coach other than two direct ts or a flagrant.

And, if there is a reason to eject someone why wouldn't you issue a t?

+1

[APG]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I don't know of any rule that would allow an official to eject a coach other than two direct Ts or a flagrant.

And, if there is a reason to eject someone why wouldn't you issue a T?

3 indirects...1 direct and 2 indirects to the head coach.

Seriously though, you should have asked your partner what rule allows him to eject a coach without issuing a technical. I'd love to hear his reasoning.

[McMac]

Only thing I could find in the rules is that a flagrant technical is only one t. (Note on rule 10-4). So you should need to call 1 t in the situation.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Seriously though, you should of asked your partner what rule allows him to eject a coach without issuing a technical. I'd love to hear his reasoning.

Stop it!

Sorry. Mr Annoying Grammar Guy is cranky from the snow and lost games.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Stop it!

Sorry. Mr Annoying Grammar Guy is cranky from the snow and lost games.

Haha my bad...I'm usually pretty good about that too.

[Mark Padgett]

This was a 5th grade "competitive" boys game (there's the problem right there) and the visiting coaches were confrontational right from the get go. The home head coach was somewhat noisy, also. My partner called both head coaches over at halftime and laid down the law to them. He made a major point of telling the visiting coach that he wasn't going to stand any more comments at all from his AC.

About two minutes into Q3, the visiting AC starts yelling about "reaches". My partner goes over to the bench and just tosses him out of the gym. I went over to the table to tell the scorer that the technical also counts as a team foul (the scorer and timer are volunteer dads) but my partner jumped in and said there was no technical, just an ejection. I said to him, "Can you do that?". He replied, "I just did."

I didn't argue because he's the assignor for this organization.

[Raymond]

In a 5th grade game? I see no problem with it. Took care of the problem without hurting the kids.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In a 5th grade game? I see no problem with it. Took care of the problem without hurting the kids.

What difference does it make whether it's a fifth grade game or the NBA Finals? When a coach does something bad enough to get tossed, he is indeed hurting his players.

Free throws and the ball (if applicable) are the least of that team's worries.

[SAK]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In a 5th grade game? I see no problem with it. Took care of the problem without hurting the kids.

We are the ones responsible for rule enforcement. With this responsibility we need to be sure that we operate within said rules. The game level does not matter. The appropriate foul needs to be called in order to operate with in the rules that we are given. In this case it sounds like a flagrant technical.

[Adam]

While I would call a T here, I've got no problem with someone just telling a guy to leave, either. Not at this level. And yes, it matters whether it's a 5th grade game or the NBA.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bainsey

What difference does it make whether it's a fifth grade game or the NBA Finals? When a coach does something bad enough to get tossed, he is indeed hurting his players.

Free throws and the ball (if applicable) are the least of that team's worries.

And my response is the same that we give coaches/fans who complain about a rule not being properly enforced in their local 6th grade game.

At that level I'm not worried that every rule gets applied to the letter of the law. The official in the OP did what he thought was best for the children and the game. It was a 5th grade game, it's no big deal.

[tref]

+1
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