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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 01:10am
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And again, no answer.

If you were in my place, what, specifically, would you do?
I did not realize you needed an answer to a silly question.

I would not do what you are doing. I would not take games to help the schools out when another association is making a stand for all of us. I would not talk to a principal and undermine the position of getting higher pay. I would not take games at that rate and act like I do not have a choice (which you always have a choice). And most of all I would not work in that system and sit back and do nothing. And I certainly would not be talking about what others think when there has been no vote to find out what the other associations actually. About the only thing I would be doing that you will do is take the raise when it comes to me.

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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 01:43am
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I did not realize you needed an answer to a silly question.

I would not do what you are doing. I would not take games to help the schools out when another association is making a stand for all of us. I would not talk to a principal and undermine the position of getting higher pay. I would not take games at that rate and act like I do not have a choice (which you always have a choice). And most of all I would not work in that system and sit back and do nothing. And I certainly would not be talking about what others think when there has been no vote to find out what the other associations actually. About the only thing I would be doing that you will do is take the raise when it comes to me.

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Silly statements provoke silly questions. You say you would not do what I do. I said you would do it or quit. You said you wouldn't quit. I said, what would you do then? And you cleared it up nicely by giving this solution. Very helpful.
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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 02:20am
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Silly statements provoke silly questions. You say you would not do what I do. I said you would do it or quit. You said you wouldn't quit. I said, what would you do then? And you cleared it up nicely by giving this solution. Very helpful.
For one I do not live in your system type. We do not get games by association and think that those that do are one of the problems of these types of situation. I like the model we live under where just like the NCAA, if the assignor of the conference likes you, they hire you. If they do not like you, they do not hire you. And if I do not want to work for someone, I don't. And it appears that you think that you cannot on some level reject games or you must work no matter what other things you have going on in your life. This entire discussion you have tried to make this sound like you have no choices in this situation. Are you telling me that if you have a date you do not want work you must work because the association tells you to? You even said if I was in your area I would have to do what you do…….Really? I would have to? I have no choice when or how to work at all? So if I have another activity I must work the amount of days you do? I guess many of you guys do not have families, jobs or other activities if you cannot decide when or how often you want to officiate.

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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 02:37am
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I would not take games at that rate and act like I do not have a choice
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And it appears that you think that you cannot on some level reject games or you must work no matter what other things you have going on in your life. This entire discussion you have tried to make this sound like you have no choices in this situation. Are you telling me that if you have a date you do not want work you must work because the association tells you to? You even said if I was in your area I would have to do what you do…….Really? I would have to? I have no choice when or how to work at all? So if I have another activity I must work the amount of days you do? I guess many of you guys do not have families, jobs or other activities if you cannot decide when or how often you want to officiate.

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Steady, Rut. Try one more time to concentrate. This is not about rejecting individual games. I can do that, no problem. Check the first statement above again. You say something like that, then when called on it, you write a whole paragraph which addresses everything but that. I should be used to it by now.
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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 02:49am
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Steady, Rut. Try one more time to concentrate. This is not about rejecting individual games. I can do that, no problem. Check the first statement above again. You say something like that, then when called on it, you write a whole paragraph which addresses everything but that. I should be used to it by now.
Can you spell Vaseline? As that is what you need as that is what the Principals should be using on you as they take complete advantage of your time and your services.

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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 03:00am
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Can you spell Vaseline? As that is what you need as that is what the Principals should be using on you as they take complete advantage of your time and your services.

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another non-answer

I detect a pattern.

again
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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 03:11am
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another non-answer

I detect a pattern.

again
I do not need to deflect anything, I do not have to work for less than $30 a game like you do unless it is summer ball. What the heck do you mean what I would do? I would not be working games to undercut my fellow officials I can afford the nights off.

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Old Mon Feb 07, 2011, 06:49am
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I would not do what you are doing. I would not take games to help the schools out when another association is making a stand for all of us. I would not talk to a principal and undermine the position of getting higher pay. I would not take games at that rate and act like I do not have a choice (which you always have a choice). And most of all I would not work in that system and sit back and do nothing.
Well said. Doing nothing gets you nothing.
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