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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 07:35pm
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There are many ways to improve one's credibility. I consider the ability to spell and type to be more important than a certain kind of pants.
Considering what we do is not "measurable" like a lot of things in life, we are judged on many things based on perception. The pants are only one part of that. A lot of other things in how we look matter too. Even as something as if your pants are ironed and creased matter to whether you are professional and look like you care. And if you do not think it does, sit in the stands with someone that evaluates officials and one of the first things that are talked about are what you look like physically and in your uniform.

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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 07:40pm
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I think one thing that's missing here is a lot of times the things that make up the first impression aren't thought about. It may be subconscious, but it doesn't make it less real.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 08:42pm
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....sit in the stands with someone that evaluates officials and one of the first things that are talked about are what you look like physically and in your uniform.
Obviously, that would be one of the first things talked about, because that is the first thing they would see. But I would think (hope) that what they see later would often overshadow uniform issues, whether positive or negative.

"That guy looks sharp, but it's obvious he has never called at this level."

"That guy looks like he slept in that uniform, but he sure knows what he's doing."

I would rather not be either of those, but I'd rather be the second than the first.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 09:05pm
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Obviously, that would be one of the first things talked about, because that is the first thing they would see. But I would think (hope) that what they see later would often overshadow uniform issues, whether positive or negative.

"That guy looks sharp, but it's obvious he has never called at this level."

"That guy looks like he slept in that uniform, but he sure knows what he's doing."

I would rather not be either of those, but I'd rather be the second than the first.
I would rather not called either.

I will say this again. The fact that you are just about the only person trying to dismiss the way you look is telling to me.

I do not read anyone trying to act as if what we wear is irrelevant.

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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 10:13pm
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I will say this again. The fact that you are just about the only person trying to dismiss the way you look is telling to me.
I dismiss everyone's appearance, relatively speaking. My last 2 partners were quite a contrast. One wears beltless pants, is always neat, and in great shape..........and rarely blows the whistle. My partner last night has small white stripes on his shoes and often has his shirt tail hanging out at the end of the night. But the second guy has been around a long time, is totally unflappable, and while he is not my favorite partner, calls the same game every night regardless of the situation.

I'd like to have the first guy pose for the pictures, in both our places, but anybody who has seen both would rather be on the court with the second guy.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 10:22pm
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I dismiss everyone's appearance, relatively speaking. My last 2 partners were quite a contrast. One wears beltless pants, is always neat, and in great shape..........and rarely blows the whistle. My partner last night has small white stripes on his shoes and often has his shirt tail hanging out at the end of the night. But the second guy has been around a long time, is totally unflappable, and while he is not my favorite partner, calls the same game every night regardless of the situation.

I'd like to have the first guy pose for the pictures, in both our places, but anybody who has seen both would rather be on the court with the second guy.
False Dichotomy

It's like asking if you should learn the rules or learn how to deal with coaches. Someone asked recently about "the whole package." This is part of the whole package; and deciding to ignore a piece of it may work well in some areas of the country, but not very many.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 10:49pm
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False Dichotomy

It's like asking if you should learn the rules or learn how to deal with coaches. Someone asked recently about "the whole package." This is part of the whole package; and deciding to ignore a piece of it may work well in some areas of the country, but not very many.

Not saying ignore it, just saying keep it in it's proper perspective.
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Old Sun Jan 30, 2011, 01:10am
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Not saying ignore it, just saying keep it in it's proper perspective.
It is in proper perspective. You will not get a second chance to prove to people you can do the job if you give them the wrong first impression. To sometimes know that someone can officiate takes a lot longer to find out than what you first show them. And that is like anything in life.

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