Come to game in uniform....or not?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

OK, I confess I'm imagining something along these lines:

Solution to the belt thing.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Solution to the belt thing.

Three options: Belted, beltless, or suspenders? I would assume that the suspenders have to be all black?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not that uncommon, but you kinda missed the point.

Here, I like the way things are put in perspective. Performance is everything.
Seniority and experience are a lot. Appearance is a consideration, but I think it would have to be shockingly bad to alter one's assignments.

And you are missing my point. I would look the part regardless of what the local standard are or are not. And that would have to do with my feelings, not what someone that hires me always thinks. Not everything is done for an assignment. Most of it is done for my personal credibility.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And you are missing my point. I would look the part regardless of what the local standard are or are not. And that would have to do with my feelings, not what someone that hires me always thinks. Not everything is done for an assignment. Most of it is done for my personal credibility.

Peace

There are many ways to improve one's credibility. I consider the ability to spell and type to be more important than a certain kind of pants.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And since I do not know where to buy a pair of belted pants that I would even like the quality of

This. What official's supply store even sells belted pants these days?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This. What official's supply store even sells belted pants these days?

Referee Pants-Flat Front With Belt Loops

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Referee Pants-Flat Front With Belt Loops

Western pockets, flat front, and belt loops. Seriously? Does it have bell bottoms, too?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This. What official's supply store even sells belted pants these days?

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Western pockets, flat front, and belt loops. Seriously? Does it have bell bottoms, too?

I don't actually know what Western pockets are. You asked for a store. Just trying to help.

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

At too many of the schools in our area, when we have a female partner, the accomodations for her are lacking or non-existent. So, often, a female official will have to come dressed.
With the newer high schools, they are including facilities for the officials, but still just one officials' room/area. Last year, a female partner met me for our game, and she used the restroom side of the the officials' area, while I used the locker side.
I really wish more respect for our female officials were built into the attitude of those who design the facilities.

It's coming. Two of the newer schools in our area have two equal dressing rooms for officials. Now this wasn't necessarily done to accommodate female officials. Both schools are small and both boys and girls teams come at the same time. JV of one will play in one gym and varsity in another with the officials lockers in between. We have a boys officiating association and a girls association. So most often one crew will use one room and the other crew will use the other room. When there are females on one crew or the other, use of the rooms is split accordingly.

Meanwhile, your female officials should speak up for equal facilities. It is unacceptable for them to be using closets or restrooms. It's getting better for us district wide but only because I have been speaking up about it and encouraging the younger ones to do so as well. We have an association which backs us up on this.

Rita

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Meanwhile, your female officials should speak up for equal facilities. It is unacceptable for them to be using closets or restrooms. It's getting better for us district wide but only because I have been speaking up about it and encouraging the younger ones to do so as well. We have an association which backs us up on this.

The female officials shouldn't have to speak at all. Their association should be doing the talking for them on issues like this. If the association isn't, then that's unacceptable imo.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This. What official's supply store even sells belted pants these days?

Most of 'em

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Three options: Belted, beltless, or suspenders? I would assume that the suspenders have to be all black?

Unless you use the grey shirts....

[Rich]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Most of 'em

I've looked at websites from Honig's, Gerry Davis, Ump-Attire, Between the Lines, and Purchase Officials and Honig's is the only one that has belted pants on their site and those are women's pants.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This. What official's supply store even sells belted pants these days?

Rut's point about quality is noted, but I can tell you in the area I worked that used belted pants, the local officials' supply store didn't carry pants at all because no one was buying them there. I tried. Had to get them from Walmart. They looked ok for a few games, but not much beyond that IMO.

Now, there's a Honig's warehouse about 10 miles out of the way on my commute.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

There are many ways to improve one's credibility. I consider the ability to spell and type to be more important than a certain kind of pants.

Considering what we do is not "measurable" like a lot of things in life, we are judged on many things based on perception. The pants are only one part of that. A lot of other things in how we look matter too. Even as something as if your pants are ironed and creased matter to whether you are professional and look like you care. And if you do not think it does, sit in the stands with someone that evaluates officials and one of the first things that are talked about are what you look like physically and in your uniform.

Peace