Scorebook

[comical]

Keeping the book last night for a D-III doubleheader: women’s game, followed by the men’s game. I was keeping the official book. Had more mistakes than usual: failing to keep the running score correct in each game (was saved by the people keeping the book for the visitors and by our SID), giving a foul to #5 instead of #15 (must not have caught the number correctly from the reporting official) and just in general doing a lousy job.

However, this is what I wanted to get thoughts on if anyone has any: before the men’s game the referee comes over to check the numbers in the book. Several minutes later (well under the 10:00 mark) the visiting team’s scorer told me there had been a change in their starting lineup. I was told just as the national anthem was about to start. After the anthem, I informed the referee and we were discussing if the team had actually made a change or if I had made a mistake in marking the starters (I hadn’t in this case). The home team coach came over and asked what the problem was. When he heard what happened, he said to forget it, let’s play. We went with the change and the visitors weren’t charged with a technical, apparently in part because of the home team coach not making an issue of it (that’s just my impression. I don’t know that). Here’s my question: Should I have just kept my mouth shut? Maybe I caused problems by saying something. Was it appropriate to notify the referee of the change? Thanks in advance.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by comical

Here’s my question: Should I have just kept my mouth shut? Maybe I caused problems by saying something. Was it appropriate to notify the referee of the change? Thanks in advance.

It's you job to advise the referee of the change. What he does from there is up to him...and his evaluators.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by comical

giving a foul to #5 instead of #15 (must not have caught the number correctly from the reporting official)

Let me guess - the officials were reporting fouls like "one-five" and not "fifteen" and you only heard the second number.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Well handled! How many areas require the referee to initial the book below each teams last listed player as a method of checking for duplicate #'s and number of players? Just about every varsity official in my area does it. In my varsity games I prep the girls book myself the night before using maxpreps.com to get the other school's roster. The boys book is already prepared by an assistant coach (also using maxpreps.com) so it is already checked for duplicate #'s.In our league everybody has correct information on this site.

[tref]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

Well handled! How many areas require the referee to initial the book below each teams last listed player as a method of checking for duplicate #'s and number of players? Just about every varsity official in my area does it. In my varsity games I prep the girls book myself the night before using maxpreps.com to get the other school's roster. The boys book is already prepared by an assistant coach (also using maxpreps.com) so it is already checked for duplicate #'s.In our league everybody has correct information on this site.

Hmmmm What if grades come out the next day & someone not listed on maxpreps is eligible?
I thought you all were supossed to enter what was provided to you.

Had a game early in the season where the table hits the horn & they say #20 is not in the book. Home team is getting smashed & wanted a T. I ask the home bookkeeper to show me what they copied from. Its the roster that fanatics get upon entrance. I ask the visiting team what they provided. They say its the paper sitting on the table. No T, lets correct & move on. Home team is pissed & unfortunately didnt know the rule. Nobody asked them to copy from the roster printed by the home team...

[APG]

Originally Posted by tref

Hmmmm What if grades come out the next day & someone not listed on maxpreps is eligible?
I thought you all were supossed to enter what was provided to you.

That's not something we have to concern ourselves with. There isn't any violation of the rules to have too many names/numbers in the book.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

There isn't any violation of the rules to have too many names/numbers in the book.

I agree with you, but there are some who would disagree, and an old IAABO Refresher Exam question that some IAABO members would use as a citation.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I agree with you, but there are some who would disagree, and an old IAABO Refresher Exam question that some IAABO members would use as a citation.

It's a good thing IAABO has no jurisdiction in Texas. And if I seem to remember correctly, most here summarily rejected that silly interpretation of the rule.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That's not something we have to concern ourselves with. There isn't any violation of the rules to have too many names/numbers in the book.

Read TRef's post again -- he's talking about a player NOT on maxpreps who HTEN beocmes eligible and needs to be added. If the roster is just taken off the site, then it will be missing the name and that could lead to problems.

[comical]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Let me guess - the officials were reporting fouls like "one-five" and not "fifteen" and you only heard the second number.

I think that's right, but even so everyone else at the table gave it to #15. Last night definitely wasn't one of my better nights at the table.