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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 02:39pm
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Ohio is not an "IAABO state," though we have boards here. OHSAA uses approved NFHS mechanics.

1) As MByron correctly stated, Ohio is not an IAABO state. There is one IAABO Board in Ohio and I am a member of it.

2) NFHS Mechanics state that the calling official should stay Table Side in this scenario. But that does not prevent the officials from switching if it is a good idea to keep the calling official away from the coaches of a particular team. Having said that, I think that it was a stupid mechanic adopted by Mary Struckhoff because she thinks that high school basketball is the same as NCAA Division I and WNBA basketball where the Head Coaches are familiar with the officials that officiate their games and can be expected to conduct themselves in a professional manner 99.999% of the time; this cannot be said for the vast majority of Jr. H.S and H.S. Head Coaches. And in our game if I had been made the call from the T, we still would have switched.

3) And there has always been a reason for switching after fouls: The idea of switching is to keep the officials from seeing the teams in the same end of the court, i.e., one official always seeing Team A on offense and Team B on defense and vice versa. Mary Struckhoff is clueless on that point among others in my opinion.

4) MByron is correct when he states that the OhioHSAA 'uses' NFHS Mechanics. But the OhioHSAA cannot really make that claim, because even though the Chairman of the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee is an Assistant Commissioner of the OhioHSAA, the OhioHSAA did not adopt the Team Control Foul signal because it is, according to the OhioHSAA confusing to the players, coaches, scorers, and fans. So it can be said that the OhioHSAA is not a 100% believer in using NFHS Mechanics.

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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 02:54pm
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2) NFHS Mechanics state that the calling official should stay Table Side in this scenario. But that does not prevent the officials from switching if it is a good idea to keep the calling official away from the coaches of a particular team. Having said that, I think that it was a stupid mechanic adopted by Mary Struckhoff because she thinks that high school basketball is the same as NCAA Division I and WNBA basketball where the Head Coaches are familiar with the officials that officiate their games and can be expected to conduct themselves in a professional manner 99.999% of the time; this cannot be said for the vast majority of Jr. H.S and H.S. Head Coaches.
I have to disagree on this point. When the change first came down, I and many others in my association were not happy about it at all. However after two seasons working with this mechanic, I have found that MOST coaches are much more willing to have a reasonable conversation with officials when we are table side than opposite table. There are always a few bad apples out there, but for the most part I feel that the change has been positive. Although maybe that has more to do with us being laid back Californians than anything else
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 03:08pm
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4) MByron is correct when he states that the OhioHSAA 'uses' NFHS Mechanics. But the OhioHSAA cannot really make that claim, because even though the Chairman of the NFHS Basketball Rules Committee is an Assistant Commissioner of the OhioHSAA, the OhioHSAA did not adopt the Team Control Foul signal because it is, according to the OhioHSAA confusing to the players, coaches, scorers, and fans. So it can be said that the OhioHSAA is not a 100% believer in using NFHS Mechanics.

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And using the PC signal for team control fouls still confuses the coaches. Just Saturday I called a foul in the key on A and gave the PC signal like a good boy and got an earful from the coach on how I could call a foul when the dribbler was on the other side of the court, five feet from my partner. I don't think he ever understood it wasn't on the dribbler.
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Old Tue Jan 25, 2011, 03:14pm
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And using the PC signal for team control fouls still confuses the coaches. Just Saturday I called a foul in the key on A and gave the PC signal like a good boy and got an earful from the coach on how I could call a foul when the dribbler was on the other side of the court, five feet from my partner. I don't think he ever understood it wasn't on the dribbler.

Eastshire:

Thanks for proving my point. I have stuck with the NFHS Mechnic for a TCF and I really do not care what the people in Columbus think.

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I really do not care what the people in Columbus think.
Mark, obviously you and JRut have a lot more in common than you let on...
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