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Old Thu Jan 20, 2011, 11:01pm
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A2 falling to the floor does not mean he is injured. Unless I have misread your post, I get the impression that you did not think that A2 was injured. And, if that was your first impression, then I would have had a foul on A3 for pushing B1.

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1. What does A2's injury have to do with whether you call a foul on A3 or not?

2. You're going to break up a fast break for B due to a foul that has nothing to do with the actual play?
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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 08:10am
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1. What does A2's injury have to do with whether you call a foul on A3 or not?

2. You're going to break up a fast break for B due to a foul that has nothing to do with the actual play?

Snaqs:

Read the OP. Look at the order of events:

1) A1 attempts 3-point FG.

2) Klutzy A2 falls down.

3) A3 attempts to box out B1.

4) A1's FG attempt is unsuccessful.

5) B2 secures rebound and passes to B3 to attempt a fastbreak.

6) A3 pushes B1.

7) B1 avoids falling over A2.

8) A3 falls over A2 and is injured.


First: A2 was not the injured player; A3 was the injured player. I misread the OP as to whther A2 was injured also.

Second: I agree, that A2 falling down does not prevent A3 being charged with a pushing foul against B1.

Third: To be honest, I do not believe there is enough information as to where on the court Team B had the ball when A3 pushed B1. I understand one's hesitation to call a foul on A3 during a Team B fastbreak situation, but unless Team B has an uncontested fastbreak, I would find it hard not to call the foul on A3. The only Casebook Play dealing with a foul by Team A behind a Team B fastbreak has to do with A-HC committing a Unsportsmanlike TF during an uncontested fastbreak. Casebook Play, states that the official can delay stopping the game for A-HC's TF until after Team B has attempted its uncontested layup. But a PF is a different situation, that does not lend itself to a delayed whistle.

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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 08:28am
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By the time A3 pushes B1, B already has the rebound and is moving down the court. Just like most fouls after rebounding action is over, unless the displacement was significant or dangerous, I'm not calling the foul here. Now, you can argue it was dangerous because B1 had to jump over A2; but I probably wouldn't call this unless B1 actually tripped over A2.
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