Rule 4-22 (Goaltending)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I refer you, Woody, to the last sentence of the OP.

I refer you, bainsey, to case book play 9.12SitB as cited above. Note that it's in a section labelled GOALTENDING. Are you sure you didn't really not want to find sumthin' like that, sumthin' that woulda screwed up your end game?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I refer you, Woody, to the last sentence of the OP.

Who's Woody?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I refer you, bainsey, to case book play 9.12SitB as cited above.

Saw that, not applicable. I'm looking for offensive goaltending on a field goal. Since this case is on a free throw, the lane violation is the call, not any goaltending.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Still, I can't find a case to support "offensive goaltending."

When the rule is this plainly stated, why would you need a case?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by just another ref

When the rule is this plainly stated, why would you need a case?

Again, to defy the myth that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Defy the myth that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending.

Paul Bunyan was a myth. Offensive goaltending, and offensive basket interference, are the real deal.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Paul Bunyon [sic] was a myth.

Says you, Connecticut!

Paul Bunyan is a good friend that lives happily near the legendary home for high school tournament basketball, the Bangor Auditorium.

(It's the airplane-looking thing in the background. 26, back me up...)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Again, to defy the myth that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending.

The rule itself will have to suffice.

[Camron Rust]

From a fairness point, why would a rule permit the offense to grab/touch a ball yet prohibit the defense from doing so when the ball is in play (time periods during FTs and throwins excepted since they're part of the penalty for another infraction or otherwise earned).

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

From a fairness point, why would a rule permit the offense to grab/touch a ball yet prohibit the defense from doing so when the ball is in play (time periods during FTs and throwins excepted since they're part of the penalty for another infraction or otherwise earned).

alley oop pass.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Again, to defy the myth that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending.

Never heard of such a myth until you created it in this thread.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Saw that, not applicable. I'm looking for offensive goaltending on a field goal. Since this case is on a free throw, the lane violation is the call, not any goaltending.

Then look at NFHS rule 7-5-2(b) which states:
"Designated out-of-bounds spot throw-in nearest the violation:
b) after GOALTENDING or basket interference by the OFFENSIVE team, as in 9-12 Penalty 2."

Let me know if that doesn't meet your approval also...and I'll find something else for you. Hell, I don't mind doing what you should have done before starting this stoopid thread.

[bainsey]

Thanks, JR, that helps. But really, haven't you learned in your travels the bees/honey/vinegar analogy?

[BktBallRef]

There are bees here?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

But really, haven't you learned in your travels the bees/honey/vinegar analogy?

Naw, I'm more of a subscriber of the analogy of having to hit a donkey over the head with a 2by4 to get their attention.

Note the smiley, bainsey.