Clock doesn't start

[force39]

4 seconds left, ball inbound at midcourt, ball gets passed inbounds team A dribbles twice puts up a prayer it goes in , look up at clock still 4 seconds, then it clicks to 2 seconds, and team b calls time out. We gave them one second and the ball inbounds. It was a quick shot. Was it handled correctly.
Team A wins by 2

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by force39

4 seconds left, ball inbound at midcourt, ball gets passed inbounds team A dribbles twice puts up a prayer it goes in , look up at clock still 4 seconds, then it clicks to 2 seconds, and team b calls time out. We gave them one second and the ball inbounds. It was a quick shot. Was it handled correctly.
Team A wins by 2

Did anyone have a count? IF so, use that. IF not, leave the clock where it was.

[Gargil]

What if the clock started before the ball was touched? The inbounder rolls the ball and the clock is started before you chop and the player picks the ball up, 1 dribble then the horn sounds? Can you put time back on the clock? Go back and replay from the inbounds with 4 seconds on the clock? What would be the proper procedure for handling this?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Gargil

What if the clock started before the ball was touched? The inbounder rolls the ball and the clock is started before you chop and the player picks the ball up, 1 dribble then the horn sounds? Can you put time back on the clock? Go back and replay from the inbounds with 4 seconds on the clock? What would be the proper procedure for handling this?

Inbound the ball from the ball location when the horn sounded, with the corrected time on the clock.

Do not "do over" the original throw-in.

[Terrapins Fan]

I had a similar thing happen Friday night, end of Q1 2.2 seconds on the clock, home team with the ball for inbound. Clock doesn't start on time ( ball in, A2 dribbles 2 steps and shoots, then clock started )

End of Q2 3.5 seconds Home team with the ball for inbound, A2 gets the ball in BC, dribbles, passes to A3 I look at the clock and it hasn't started, A3 passes to A4 and A4 shoots and misses, I waved the Q to an end. I have no doubt 3.5 seconds have expired. More likely 5 seconds.

I talked to the clock operator and we didn't have any more problems the rest of the game.

I expect you will ask if the basket had gone what would I have done. I have to count it, unless my partner had a count.

BTW, home won by about 20 anyway. In a close game, what choice do I have?

[bob jenkins]

Always have a count in the last 30 seconds or so of each period.

Especially when you looked and noticed the clock hadn't started.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by force39

4 seconds left, ball inbound at midcourt, ball gets passed inbounds team A dribbles twice puts up a prayer it goes in , look up at clock still 4 seconds, then it clicks to 2 seconds, and team b calls time out. We gave them one second and the ball inbounds. It was a quick shot. Was it handled correctly.
Team A wins by 2

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Did anyone have a count? IF so, use that. IF not, leave the clock where it was.

Always listen to bob.

Seeing how it's VERY likely that the pass went to the FC and the ball was likely passed and/or advanced quickly, there would be no BC count, and no CG count. Therefore, if you have no count, leave the clock at 4 seconds, and B gets the endline throw-in after their TO.

This is where the FIBA rule is exciting: B would get a FC-3PLE throw-in!

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Always have a count in the last 30 seconds or so of each period.

Especially when you looked and noticed the clock hadn't started.

Always listen to bob.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Inbound the ball from the ball location when the horn sounded, with the corrected time on the clock.

Do not "do over" the original throw-in.

This was one we debated several years ago. Finally, the FED clarified that there is no "do over." Administer as Bob stated.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Always have a count in the last 30 seconds or so of each period.

Especially when you looked and noticed the clock hadn't started.

I've had to end multiple quarters this way, although never twice in the same game. I always have a count at the end of a quarter.

[deecee]

About 4 years ago I started counting on everything in the final 10-20 seconds. i do it semi visibly like the free throw count.

[26 Year Gap]

I ended a game with a whistle that way recently. 1.2 on the clock for an inbound. It did not start. As I counted 2 after it was legally touched inbounds, I blew the whistle.