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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 08:08am
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Sometimes we forget that we are dealing with a 7th Grade Coach and not a high school or college coach that might know better not to count. I think this is a "talk to" (warning).
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 08:24am
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Sometimes we forget that we are dealing with a 7th Grade Coach and not a high school or college coach that might know better not to count. I think this is a "talk to" (warning).
7th grade coach? All the more reason for giving him the T after telling him to stop.
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 09:11am
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7th grade coach? All the more reason for giving him the T after telling him to stop.
When did he tell him to stop counting? "I've got it" is not telling him to stop.
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 09:57am
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i agree with the "t". however, not only have i not given my first "t" this year, i haven't called three seconds in a 7th grade game/first quarter in several years. talk the kids out of there and the coaches will see you working...
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 10:39am
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i haven't called three seconds in a 7th grade game/first quarter in several years. talk the kids out of there and the coaches will see you working...
You've never run into a player at that level that just didn't listen?

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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 10:51am
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There's only one reason he counted out loud....

....to show you up in front of everyone in the gym. "I was counting to myself" is proof.....

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There's only one reason he counted out loud....

....to show you up in front of everyone in the gym. "I was counting to myself" is proof.....

Whack....
How about..."Coach we are done counting out loud, if you continue it will be a technical foul."
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You've never run into a player at that level that just didn't listen?
The captains always listen to every word we say at the pregame captain's meeting. Right?
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The captains always listen to every word we say at the pregame captain's meeting. Right?
It's why my meeting lasts about 15 seconds.
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The captains always listen to every word we say at the pregame captain's meeting. Right?
About as much as your partners if you're the R......
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 10:07am
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When did he tell him to stop counting? "I've got it" is not telling him to stop.
"I've got it" is just that in my book. YMMV of course. He obviously either didn't understand or care.

Frankly, his response to the T might have drawn a 2nd.

"Because I'm wanting you to call it the same both sides?"

Again, in a 7th grade game, it would have likely gone down the same way with me.
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 10:15am
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"I've got it" is just that in my book. YMMV of course. He obviously either didn't understand or care.

Frankly, his response to the T might have drawn a 2nd.

"Because I'm wanting you to call it the same both sides?"

Again, in a 7th grade game, it would have likely gone down the same way with me.
Agreed. I haven't had a counter in about 15 years. He drew a technical when he said, "1. 2. 3. Can't you count to 3?" My thought was, "I can count to T."

I'd be thrilled if they rewrote the 3-second rule in a way that shut up coaches who think we should be actively looking for players with one toe over the lane line opposite the ball. (This only happens in lower level and girls varsity games, IMO.)
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IMHO - the call was good. He waited for you - then got in your ear, was obnoxious, was making an azz of himself - and succeeded. If you let it go it just encourages him to continue and encourages his players and asst. coaches to do the same. In this case I am not inclined to "give a warning". He was asking for it - you gave it to him - good for you. As you stated - no further problems.

As far as the "I was counting to myself" comment - tell him to count quietly next time!!
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 09:59pm
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When did he tell him to stop counting? "I've got it" is not telling him to stop.
Of course it is. "I have it, I'll make the call when it needs to be made, I don't need you to count."

It ain't that hard to understand that.
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Of course it is. "I have it, I'll make the call when it needs to be made, I don't need you to count."

It ain't that hard to understand that.
Yep, and if he doesn't understand what I mean this time, he will next time.
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