# of games

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

Would I rather get paid $80 and get some exercise and enjoy being around the game? Yes I would. Is there any sibilance of "independent contract" or free market principle in the "unilateral" nature of TSSAA policies? NO.

This isn't anything close to a unilateral contract. Every contract comes with terms and conditions. If you don't accept those of TSSAA contracts, then don't accept or work the games.

I never understand why people think they have the right to work school contests without complying with the terms of the contract. A free market means that the TSSAA is free to require whatever it wants for its $80 games, and you're free to decline the bargain.

And 'sibilance' is a kind of hiss. You want 'semblance'.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by mbyron

This isn't anything close to a unilateral contract. Every contract comes with terms and conditions. If you don't accept those of TSSAA contracts, then don't accept or work the games.

I never understand why people think they have the right to work school contests without complying with the terms of the contract. A free market means that the TSSAA is free to require whatever it wants for its $80 games, and you're free to decline the bargain.

And 'sibilance' is a kind of hiss. You want 'semblance'.

Thanks for the correction of my Homonym error.

A free market means that each party has at least some influence on the terms of the agreement. The B of A is totally populated by School administrators. There is no representation of the referees, the "other" party. TSSAA by sanctioning both the referee associations and the validity of the contests enforce the will of only one party to the contracts.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

Thanks for the correction of my Homonym error.

A free market means that each party has at least some influence on the terms of the agreement. The B of A is totally populated by School administrators. There is no representation of the referees, the "other" party. TSSAA by sanctioning both the referee associations and the validity of the contests enforce the will of only one party to the contracts.

You're welcome.

No, it means the absence of force and fraud.

Given what Rich posted, I agree that the situation sounds far from ideal. It's too bad you can't have elections in the association to get better leadership, go on strike, or otherwise act in concert with fellow officials to better the situation.

Oh wait: you can!

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You're welcome.

No, it means the absence of force and fraud.
TSSAA is using it's "force" IE it's power to sanction and forfeit.

Given what Rich posted, I agree that the situation sounds far from ideal. It's too bad you can't have elections in the association to get better leadership, Nope, No we can not. We used to have elected leadership. They were advocating for the interest of the officials. Last Feb the TSSAA assistant director responsible for Basketball came to our local meeting informed us that our elected board was being disbanded and that only the TSSAA appointed supervisors would control the association. The old board transfered the bank accounts including the ~$55,000 scholarship fund to the control of the appointed supervisors go on strike, or otherwise act in concert with fellow officials to better the situation.

Oh wait: you can!

The attempt to "act in concert" with other officials was attempted in the recent past by a neighboring association. That was the one where TSSAA told them they would not be sanctioned and told the schools using them would result in forfeited games.

The only option would be a strike action. Referees I have come in contact with in general are very "independent" in nature. I foresee no group strike action out of group of people who would allow their elected representation to be disbanded and their money taken. We now have "taxation without representation" paying $85 per year membership fee, $1 per assignment and $175 mandatory TSSAA "camp" every 3 years.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

The attempt to "act in concert" with other officials was attempted in the recent past by a neighboring association. That was the one where TSSAA told them they would not be sanctioned and told the schools using them would result in forfeited games.

The only option would be a strike action. Referees I have come in contact with in general are very "independent" in nature. I foresee no group strike action out of group of people who would allow their elected representation to be disbanded and their money taken. We now have "taxation without representation" paying $85 per year membership fee, $1 per assignment and $175 mandatory TSSAA "camp" every 3 years.

Strike action? I tried to organize the officials in an adult baseball league where the umpires were underpaid and overabused. There were just enough people who would crawl over our corpses to take the games that such an action wasn't possible.

Same with anything in this case -- those officials who have been waiting for 5-6 years to break into the varsity ranks would be thrilled to see those spots open up. Look at the handshake nonsense in Massachusetts -- those games got filled, too.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You're welcome.

No, it means the absence of force and fraud.

Given what Rich posted, I agree that the situation sounds far from ideal. It's too bad you can't have elections in the association to get better leadership, go on strike, or otherwise act in concert with fellow officials to better the situation.

Oh wait: you can!

You could, except the TSSAA would probably reallocate those schools to a different association and decertify the group.

Those officials who have never worked in another system -- well, it's better, certainly. You get to work with multiple assignors and get to be responsible for filling your own schedule. One person's opinion of your work doesn't greatly affect your schedule or your advancement.