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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 12:47pm
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False Double Foul ???
Trail sounds whistle and charges personal foul on B1 who fouls A1 in the act of shooting a three point field goal. Ball does not go in. While the ball is in flight, lead sounds the whistle and charges A2 with a rebounding push against B2. False double foul. Penalize in the order that they occurred. Three free throws for A1 with the lane cleared. A1 is successful on the last free throw. We are not in the bonus for either team. Team B inbounds the ball on the endline, which is the spot closest to the foul. Team B gets to run the endline.

Did we do this correctly?
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 12:53pm
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I believe it should be a spot throw-in from the end line. The rest of it sounds good though.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:02pm
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I believe it should be a spot throw-in from the end line. The rest of it sounds good though.
That was our biggest concern after we got together to discuss the play before reporting to the table. Maybe we blew it? Anybody got a citation?

After the game, we talked about how to handle this if both fouls occurred at exactly the same time? How do you penalize in the order that they occurred? Simultaneous fouls? No free throws? Go to the arrow? Seems harsh not to award three free throws? We both forgot about it after a few adult beverages.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:10pm
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in this stich why not go with poi which would be the arrow?
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:18pm
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in this stich why not go with poi which would be the arrow?
When do we ever go to the arrow after a common foul? This isn't a double foul.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:18pm
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4.19.9 Situation A. Sounds like you did it right.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:20pm
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I believe it should be a spot throw-in from the end line. The rest of it sounds good though.
Last free throw was good, which allows Team B the right to run the endline.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:22pm
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in this stich why not go with poi which would be the arrow?
4-36-1
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:37pm
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4.19.9 Situation A. Sounds like you did it right.
A1 leaps high and is fouled by B1 as he/she taps the ball
which subsequently goes through A’s basket. A1 fouls B2 in returning to the floor.
RULING: This is a false double foul. The foul by B1 does not cause the ball to
become dead. However, the player-control foul by A1 does cause the ball to
become dead and also dictates that no goal can be scored. Since the goal is not
scored, A1 is awarded two free throws for the foul by B1. No players are allowed
along the lane as Team B will be awarded the ball following the last free throw. If
the last throw is successful, the throw-in is from anywhere along the end line. If
the last throw is unsuccessful, the throw-in is from a designated spot nearest the
foul. (4-1; 4-11; 4-41-1; 6-7-7 Exception c: 6-7-4; 7-5-4a)
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 01:45pm
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i know, just playing devils advocate.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 02:56pm
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in this stich why not go with poi which would be the arrow?
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When do we ever go to the arrow after a common foul? This isn't a double foul.
On a simultaneous foul.

If they occurred at approximately the same time, even if not a double foul, we go with the POI.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 03:06pm
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On a simultaneous foul.

If they occurred at approximately the same time, even if not a double foul, we go with the POI.
Thanks camron that's what I was hinting at. The case play is wrong for this op. Correct procedure would have been ap arrow. If the basket scored correct procedure would be shoot the 1 shot with spaces occupied.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 03:18pm
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Simultaneous Foul ???
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On a simultaneous foul. If they occurred at approximately the same time, even if not a double foul, we go with the POI.
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After the game, we talked about how to handle this if both fouls occurred at exactly the same time? How do you penalize in the order that they occurred? Simultaneous fouls? No free throws? Go to the arrow? Seems harsh not to award three free throws? We both forgot about it after a few adult beverages.
So in my hypothetical followup, we're not shooting three free throws? We're going to the arrow? Seems harsh, but correct.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 03:57pm
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In your situation the poi was the shot. So what happens next? Free throws with the lanes occupied of course.
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Old Fri Dec 31, 2010, 05:10pm
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Simultaneous Fouls ???
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So in my hypothetical followup, we're not shooting three free throws? We're going to the arrow? Seems harsh, but correct.
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In your situation the poi was the shot. So what happens next? Free throws with the lanes occupied of course.
No free throws for simultaneous fouls? Right? What am I missing here? Too much nog?
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