Why we avoid conflicts of interest

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's not a universal practice all over the country. I think the meaning of it is crystal clear, but it takes quite a bit for me to get to the point where I draw a visible line on the court and essentially (in some coaches' minds) dare them to step over it.

And that's probably why I don't like it. I don't like when coaches show me up and there's a part of me that thinks that me putting my hand up for the coach (and everyone else) to see puts a coach into a corner, and there's nothing more dangerous than a cornered rat.

Rich -

You are right on brother !!!!! I hate to keep using "NBA Philosophies" with regard to NHFS / NCAA, but Scott Foster has told a bunch of us to put our hands down by our hips, more along the lines of an "easy coach".

Giving the stop sign (when two adults are involved) is absurd. We wouldn't want it and why should we treat another adult like a child.

Just think that too many of us think because we put on the stripes, it gives us
unlimited authority whenever we choose.......

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

You are right on brother !!!!! I hate to keep using "NBA Philosophies" with regard to NHFS / NCAA, but Scott Foster has told a bunch of us to put our hands down by our hips, more along the lines of an "easy coach".

Giving the stop sign (when two adults are involved) is absurd. We wouldn't want it and why should we treat another adult like a child.

Just think that too many of us think because we put on the stripes, it gives us
unlimited authority whenever we choose.......

When did taking a non-threatening posture when dealing with players or coaches become a freaking NBA philosophy? Officials at all levels have been using various forms of that philosophy...folded arms, etc when listening or answering a question....for many, many years....before Scott Foster was born.

And btw, our "unlimited authority" is usually limited by the people we report to. They won't put up with any loose cannons going off. And conversely I also think that far too many of us are afraid to use that supposedly "unlimited authority" to keep their games under control. They're looking for any reason not to call a technical foul. And by far the most used reason by them is the good ol' "it's good game management" excuse.

JMO

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

When did taking a non-threatening posture when dealing with players or coaches become a freaking NBA philosophy? Officials at all levels have been using various forms of that philosophy...folded arms, etc when listening or answering a question....for many, many years....before Scott Foster was born.

And btw, our "unlimited authority" is usually limited by the people we report to. They won't put up with any loose cannons going off. And conversely I also think that far too many of us are afraid to use that supposedly "unlimited authority" to keep their games under control. They're looking for any reason not to call a technical foul. And by far the most used reason by them is the good ol' "it's good game management" excuse.

JMO

I'm on a roll. We had 3 technicals last night -- one for each of us. 2 of them came during a scuffle after a foul.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm on a roll. We had 3 technicals last night -- one for each of us. 2 of them came during a scuffle after a foul.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm on a roll. We had 3 technicals last night -- one for each of us. 2 of them came during a scuffle after a foul.

Naw, you're just dealing with what comes up that you have to deal with. It comes with the job.

You know that.

And you know you'll continue doing that too without analyzing it to death.

[Judtech]

I wonder how officiating one of my wife's games would work out!!

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I wonder how officiating one of my wife's games would work out!!

Sweet! nice to be the one in charge for a change!

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I wonder how officiating one of my wife's games would work out!!

"You ejected me from the game. I'm ejecting you from the bedroom. We're even."

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

"You ejected me from the game. I'm ejecting you from the bedroom. We're even."

There is a reason the XBOX and big screen are out by the sofa!

Actually, I have always thought it would be..
"Call the foul"
"Well if your player would have done what you told them to I would"
"Why, you never do"

...and I could go on and on. It would be sort of funny though. I have worked 2 games over the summer but those don't have the same intensity LOL

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Rich -

You are right on brother !!!!! I hate to keep using "NBA Philosophies" with regard to NHFS / NCAA, but Scott Foster has told a bunch of us to put our hands down by our hips, more along the lines of an "easy coach".

Giving the stop sign (when two adults are involved) is absurd. We wouldn't want it and why should we treat another adult like a child.

Just think that too many of us think because we put on the stripes, it gives us
unlimited authority whenever we choose.......

Putting the stripes on doesn't give us unlimited authority. It does, however, give us explicitly defined authority which includes penalizing unsporting behavior by a coach. The stop sign and verbal warnings are appropriate tools of that authority. Showing the stop sign is not treating a coach like a child, it's treating him as one who must submit to your authority on his conduct, which he is.

That said, I agree that the stop sign can be inflammatory as it publicly puts the coach into a corner. The stop sign is a hammer but the problem isn't always a nail.