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Old Thu Dec 30, 2010, 12:21pm
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Disagree completely. It serves it's function if it's used properly. It's a non-verbal warning, and just like a verbal warning you have to follow up if you want it to be effective.
I measure success on how many times it's actually worked in quieting the coach without a T. Verbal warnings work often for me; I've never had the stop sign work. It's led to a T every time I've used it.

I'm not saying others shouldn't use it; it works for some and in some areas it's actually expected. But like Rich (and others), I'm not a fan.

I think it's overly dismissive and unnecessarily inflammatory.

Note in response to Rich's post, the term "success" as I use it doesn't apply to me so much as the tactic.
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Old Thu Dec 30, 2010, 12:57pm
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I've never had the stop sign work. It's led to a T every time I've used it.
Are you sure that isn't the coach's fault and not the stop sign's fault?

There's no real real difference between a verbal final warning and a visual final warning imo. In both cases, we can't control what happens next. And in both cases we simply react to what happens next.
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Old Thu Dec 30, 2010, 01:01pm
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Are you sure that isn't the coach's fault and not the stop sign's fault?

There's no real real difference between a verbal final warning and a visual final warning imo. In both cases, we can't control what happens next. And in both cases we simply react to what happens next.
No, I'm not sure, but I know it hasn't worked for me. It's very possible I haven't used it correctly; but I've just had far greater success with my words.

Out of curiosity, I asked my dad how he would take it and his first thought was "that the official has had enough and I shouldn't push it any further." He's not a coach or official, but I thought it was interesting.
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There's no real real difference between a verbal final warning and a visual final warning imo.
Some people are visual learners. Some people are auditory learners. Some people are kinesthetic learners. Unfortunately, I can't legally punch the coach in the mouth.
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I measure success on how many times it's actually worked in quieting the coach without a T. Verbal warnings work often for me; I've never had the stop sign work. It's led to a T every time I've used it.

I'm not saying others shouldn't use it; it works for some and in some areas it's actually expected. But like Rich (and others), I'm not a fan.

I think it's overly dismissive and unnecessarily inflammatory.

Note in response to Rich's post, the term "success" as I use it doesn't apply to me so much as the tactic.
That is the single greatest post I have ever seen on this site. That is taking care of the game, and illustrates brains controlling the "stones".
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