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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:26pm
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I disagree. I like the rule as it is. In a game where the trailing team tries to foul to catch up, how many fouls do you typically see for this purpose? Two, three, four at most? Note, I'm not asking for the worst case scenario, just the typical situation. I don't think it's broken.
The problem is that there are 3 point field goals now but the number of free throws has not been adjusted. Back in the day you could make as many points on free throws after a foul as the other team could get with a field goal.

There should be a third free throw call the "extra bonus" or something. It is only awarded after 12 or 13 fouls and only if the first 2 free throws are successful. I guess that would be that a player fouled while shooting would also have to be awarded the extra bonus if he made the first two also.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:37pm
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The problem is that there are 3 point field goals now but the number of free throws has not been adjusted. Back in the day you could make as many points on free throws after a foul as the other team could get with a field goal.

There should be a third free throw call the "extra bonus" or something. It is only awarded after 12 or 13 fouls and only if the first 2 free throws are successful. I guess that would be that a player fouled while shooting would also have to be awarded the extra bonus if he made the first two also.
This makes sense to me. I'm not sure the adjustment would need to be made to the shooting foul, though.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 01:01pm
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Get rid of AP

Go to a jump ball.

If I'm a defensive player and I've legally created a jump ball situation why do I get penalized for making a smart play based on an arrow?

If I'm an offensive player and I've not protected the ball sufficently than I deserve whatever result comes from the jump.

I think that player has earned the right to contest for the ball as part of competing.

I know some of us are concerned about throwing a good jump ball in a close contest, but I think that skill would improve as more jumps are administered.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 01:15pm
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Go to a jump ball.

If I'm a defensive player and I've legally created a jump ball situation why do I get penalized for making a smart play based on an arrow?

If I'm an offensive player and I've not protected the ball sufficently than I deserve whatever result comes from the jump.

I think that player has earned the right to contest for the ball as part of competing.

I know some of us are concerned about throwing a good jump ball in a close contest, but I think that skill would improve as more jumps are administered.
If the defensive player had done a good enough job, they would have taken the ball from the offense. They didn't, so they don't deserve anything.

And, by the same reasoning, the offense didn't do a perfect job either.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 08:32pm
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This will not be popular!!

I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game. Give the first (start of game) possession to the V. Then alternate at each quarter regardless of AP arrow. Reset AP with possession at each quarter.

Kind of like "first bats" and "last bats" in baseball. Given the AP it will still awlays be within one of being even. And, Home team will have possession to start the 4th quarter.
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I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 09:41pm
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 08:58pm
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I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game. Give the first (start of game) possession to the V. Then alternate at each quarter regardless of AP arrow. Reset AP with possession at each quarter.

Kind of like "first bats" and "last bats" in baseball. Given the AP it will still awlays be within one of being even. And, Home team will have possession to start the 4th quarter.
I have no problem with that.
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I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game.
Okay, so what about overtime periods?
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Old Fri Dec 24, 2010, 11:48am
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Okay, so what about overtime periods?
OTs are an extension of the 4th period. We just keep going with AP as it alternates from the beginning of the 4th period.
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Ok here's another idea, especially since just went through a 2 OT game, since OT is considered an extension of the 4th quarter (2nd half in college), have OT start like the resumption of play after halftime.

I like the idea of 16 minute halves instead or 8 minute quarters. That would take away 2 1-minute official TOs & could make the game go a bit faster.
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Old Sat Dec 25, 2010, 12:04am
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I like the idea of 16 minute halves instead or 8 minute quarters. That would take away 2 1-minute official TOs & could make the game go a bit faster.
We've gone to 18 min halves in ND and MN for V games. It takes away a quarter break but gives 2 more minutes for possible bonus FT's. So it seems like a wash. We have shot clock in V games (and some JV games). So far in 3 V games I've had 1 SC violation.
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I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game. Give the first (start of game) possession to the V. Then alternate at each quarter regardless of AP arrow. Reset AP with possession at each quarter.

Kind of like "first bats" and "last bats" in baseball. Given the AP it will still awlays be within one of being even. And, Home team will have possession to start the 4th quarter.
Why complicate it? Give the ball to V to start the game and use the AP for the balance of the game including OT.
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Give the ball to V to start the game and use the AP for the balance of the game including OT.
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I would like to get rid of the jump ball to start the game. Give the first (start of game) possession to the V. Then alternate at each quarter regardless of AP arrow. Reset AP with possession at each quarter.

Kind of like "first bats" and "last bats" in baseball. Given the AP it will still awlays be within one of being even. And, Home team will have possession to start the 4th quarter.
Something similar happens under NBA rules. The team that loses the jump gets the ball to start quarters 2 & 3 and the jump winner gets the ball for the 4th quarter.
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