If I could change one rule, it would be....

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Larks

Other than on a made basket for the purposes of the correctable errors, when is that? You will never get coaches to agree with that one because they need those TOs to extend the game.

Why are you talking about correctable errors? What does that have to do with coaches requesting timeouts?

[Texas Aggie]

Allow a team to "decline" any penalty -- usually a free throw, but could be shots and the ball -- for a throw in at the place of their choosing. OK, leave out the choosing part and stay at nearest spot, if you like.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Allow a team to "decline" any penalty -- usually a free throw, but could be shots and the ball -- for a throw in at the place of their choosing. OK, leave out the choosing part and stay at nearest spot, if you like.

I hope this isn't leading to a coach throwing a red flag...

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Allow a team to "decline" any penalty -- usually a free throw, but could be shots and the ball -- for a throw in at the place of their choosing. OK, leave out the choosing part and stay at nearest spot, if you like.

I'd actually like to experiment with this rule: two/three shots OR the ball. I don't know if it will discourage late-game fouls, but it's worth trying.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'd actually like to experiment with this rule: two/three shots OR the ball. I don't know if it will discourage late-game fouls, but it's worth trying.

I disagree. I like the rule as it is. In a game where the trailing team tries to foul to catch up, how many fouls do you typically see for this purpose? Two, three, four at most? Note, I'm not asking for the worst case scenario, just the typical situation. I don't think it's broken.

And if we (me included) would call the intentional when it's warranted, it would also reduce it.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I disagree. I like the rule as it is. In a game where the trailing team tries to foul to catch up, how many fouls do you typically see for this purpose? Two, three, four at most? Note, I'm not asking for the worst case scenario, just the typical situation. I don't think it's broken.

The problem is that there are 3 point field goals now but the number of free throws has not been adjusted. Back in the day you could make as many points on free throws after a foul as the other team could get with a field goal.

There should be a third free throw call the "extra bonus" or something. It is only awarded after 12 or 13 fouls and only if the first 2 free throws are successful. I guess that would be that a player fouled while shooting would also have to be awarded the extra bonus if he made the first two also.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Cobra

The problem is that there are 3 point field goals now but the number of free throws has not been adjusted. Back in the day you could make as many points on free throws after a foul as the other team could get with a field goal.

There should be a third free throw call the "extra bonus" or something. It is only awarded after 12 or 13 fouls and only if the first 2 free throws are successful. I guess that would be that a player fouled while shooting would also have to be awarded the extra bonus if he made the first two also.

This makes sense to me. I'm not sure the adjustment would need to be made to the shooting foul, though.

[ref3808]

Go to a jump ball.

If I'm a defensive player and I've legally created a jump ball situation why do I get penalized for making a smart play based on an arrow?

If I'm an offensive player and I've not protected the ball sufficently than I deserve whatever result comes from the jump.

I think that player has earned the right to contest for the ball as part of competing.

I know some of us are concerned about throwing a good jump ball in a close contest, but I think that skill would improve as more jumps are administered.

[Larks]

Originally Posted by Cobra

I would say no timeouts even if the ball is dead if the clock is running.

Originally Posted by Cobra

Why are you talking about correctable errors? What does that have to do with coaches requesting timeouts?

I asked you...when is the clock running and the ball is dead?

My point was...and correct me if I am wrong....when the ball checks through the net on a field goal, it becomes dead and then instantly alive for the purposes of the correctable error rules.

Maybe my caffeine hasn't kicked in yet but I don't know any other time that the ball is dead while the clock is moving.

Anyone??

[Larks]

Have non participants announced at the 4 minute mark in warm ups.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Larks

I asked you...when is the clock running and the ball is dead?

My point was...and correct me if I am wrong....when the ball checks through the net on a field goal, it becomes dead and then instantly alive for the purposes of the correctable error rules.

Maybe my caffeine hasn't kicked in yet but I don't know any other time that the ball is dead while the clock is moving.

Anyone??

The ball doesn't come "instantly" alive. It becomes alive only when it's at the other team's disposal.

I think someone's point (but I could be wrong) is that they would (or wouldn't) allow a coach to request a TO even after a made basket.

While all this is a nice "fantasy", it will never happen -- the coaches like the rule as it is and won't give up the ability to request TO.

[Raymond]

illegal to play with one contact lense.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

illegal to play with one contact lense.

Or make it a technical.

[Larks]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The ball doesn't come "instantly" alive. It becomes alive only when it's at the other team's disposal.

Not to nit pick but, are you saying that a foul committed in the interim between "checking the net" and "at the disposal" is technical? (dead ball contact)

I agree, I think he meant to suggest no time outs after a made basket. I agree with you, that will never happen.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Larks

Not to nit pick but, are you saying that a foul committed in the interim between "checking the net" and "at the disposal" is technical? (dead ball contact)

If it's a foul (that is, if it's intentional or flagrant), yes, it's a T.

If it's not intentional or flagrant (nor committed on or by an airborne shooter), then the contact is ignored (meaning no foul; the official might want to note / address it).