Pass that goes in.

[youngref33]

A a non basketball official buddy of mine called and asked me about this play. Happened in a varsity game the other night.

Kid is at the top of the key and is going to pass the ball to the left wing. The offensive player is behind the 3 point line. The offensive player attempts to pass the ball to the wing and its deflected by the defense who is in front of the 3 points line. Ball goes into the basket off the deflection.

Is it a 2 or 3?

[Adam]

2

[26 Year Gap]

It is a case play, I believe. I had a similar play last season.

[Scratch85]

5.2.1C(b)

A1 throws the ball from behind the three-point arc. The ball is legally touched by B1 who is in the two-point area and then it goes directly through A's basket. Ruling; three points are scored since the legal touching was by the defense and the ball was thrown from behind the three-point line.

Score 3!

[youngref33]

Thanks. I guess they ruled it a 2. I thought it would be a 3, but thats not a play we see everyday!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by youngref33

A a non basketball official buddy of mine called and asked me about this play. Happened in a varsity game the other night.

Kid is at the top of the key and is going to pass the ball to the left wing. The offensive player is behind the 3 point line. The offensive player attempts to pass the ball to the wing and its deflected by the defense who is in front of the 3 points line. Ball goes into the basket off the deflection.

Is it a 2 or 3?

FED or NCAA (or other)?

[Adam]

I know we've had this discussion here before, and I'm not convinced this rule is meant to apply to all cases.

Situation: A1 (standing at the top-right of the key in the 3 pt area) passes towards A2, cutting through the lane on the opposite side. Just as A2, standing in the paint, is about to catch the ball, B1 runs in and it hits him in the head and goes into the basket.

[youngref33]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

FED or NCAA (or other)?

High School

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I know we've had this discussion here before, and I'm not convinced this rule is meant to apply to all cases.

I wish that it wouldn't, but I think that it does.

I think the NCAA rule is better.

Originally Posted by youngref33

High School

Then you've been given the correct answer (assuming your HS plays by FED rules)

[26 Year Gap]

If it is deemed to be a try, then it is 3 points. If it is definitely not a try, then it is 2 points. My play had a pass parallel to the floor into the post that got deflected, changed direction dramatically and went into the basket. The OP sounds similar to my play. My interpreter and my former interpreter both indicated that 2 points was correct in this case. One is Fed & the other is IAABO.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Situation: A1 (standing at the top-right of the key in the 3 pt area) passes towards A2, cutting through the lane on the opposite side. Just as A2, standing in the paint, is about to catch the ball, B1 runs in and it hits him in the head and goes into the basket.

Arms up, Snaq. That's a three.

Had the ball hit a teammate or official in the paint (despite really bad positioning by stripes), then it would be a two. (See 5.2.1 C)

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I know we've had this discussion here before, and I'm not convinced this rule is meant to apply to all cases.

Situation: A1 (standing at the top-right of the key in the 3 pt area) passes towards A2, cutting through the lane on the opposite side. Just as A2, standing in the paint, is about to catch the ball, B1 runs in and it hits him in the head and goes into the basket.

Does not need to be a try in order to count 3. Assuming the antecedent of "him" above is B1, your play is a 3-point bucket, since it is not ruled out by the exclusions under 5-2-1.

5-2-1:

"A successful try, tap or thrown ball from the field by a player who
is located behind the team's own 19-foot, 9-inch arc counts three points. A ball
that touches the floor, a teammate inside the arc, an official, or any other goal
from the field counts two points for the team into whose basket the ball is thrown."

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Does not need to be a try in order to count 3. Assuming the antecedent of "him" above is B1, your play is a 3-point bucket, since it is not ruled out by the exclusions under 5-2-1.

5-2-1:

"A successful try, tap or thrown ball from the field by a player who
is located behind the team's own 19-foot, 9-inch arc counts three points. A ball
that touches the floor, a teammate inside the arc, an official, or any other goal
from the field counts two points for the team into whose basket the ball is thrown."

This is why I love this forum.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Does not need to be a try in order to count 3. Assuming the antecedent of "him" above is B1, your play is a 3-point bucket, since it is not ruled out by the exclusions under 5-2-1.

5-2-1:

"A successful try, tap or thrown ball from the field by a player who
is located behind the team's own 19-foot, 9-inch arc counts three points. A ball
that touches the floor, a teammate inside the arc, an official, or any other goal
from the field counts two points for the team into whose basket the ball is thrown."

I didn't say it needed to be a try.

Sitch 2: A1 shoots a three point shot, but it falls short and is an air ball. A2 and B2 attempt to get the rebound, but B2 outjumps A2 and is able to tip it and it goes in.

Sitch 3: A1, from the corner (3 pt area), passes an alley oop pass towards A

2. However, the pass sails over A2's hands and the basket. After going over the basket it hits B2 in the a) hands or b) head and bounces into the basket.

Y'all giving three for both of these?

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I didn't say it needed to be a try.

Sitch 2: A1 shoots a three point shot, but it falls short and is an air ball. A2 and B2 attempt to get the rebound, but B2 outjumps A2 and is able to tip it and it goes in.

Sitch 3: A1, from the corner (3 pt area), passes an alley oop pass towards A

2. However, the pass sails over A2's hands and the basket. After going over the basket it hits B2 in the a) hands or b) head and bounces into the basket.

Y'all giving three for both of these?

As I understand the rule, Yes. But I hope it never comes up and I don't have to.

Wasn't it just a few years ago that an interp was around that it required a try to count as three? Of course that would have been before the more recent case play.