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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 05:19pm
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To me, "suspend" vs. "forfeit" is semantics. Either way, the league/state can decide to continue the game. Either way, the league/state can decide to let it stand as is.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 06:08pm
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A better idea, lifetime ban from athletics (no college playing, no chance of going pro) He's more suited to be picking up garbage along the freeway.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 07:11pm
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A better idea, lifetime ban from athletics (no college playing, no chance of going pro) He's more suited to be picking up garbage along the freeway.
I might go for a ban at the high school level. A ban at the college and professional level (no matter how small those chances may be) is both unrealistic and excessive punishment.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 10:00am
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I might go for a ban at the high school level. A ban at the college and professional level (no matter how small those chances may be) is both unrealistic and excessive punishment.
I would hope that no college would even consider bringing him into their program - I would hope he would be shunned by the college basketball world.

OTOH, I believe in forgiveness and second chances so maybe if he gets into some kind of anger management program and proves that he is rehabilitated, I might reconsider
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 04:34pm
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I would hope that no college would even consider bringing him into their program - I would hope he would be shunned by the college basketball world.
I won't go that far. Was this a descipable act? Yes, and he should be punished to the full extent of the law. But after that, if some program wants to take a chance on him for some reason, I'm not going to be shouting for banishment from college ball.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 05:05pm
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I won't go that far. Was this a descipable act? Yes, and he should be punished to the full extent of the law. But after that, if some program wants to take a chance on him for some reason, I'm not going to be shouting for banishment from college ball.
If he's good enough, it will be conveniently forgotten. See OJ Mayo for reference.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 11:25am
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To me, "suspend" vs. "forfeit" is semantics. Either way, the league/state can decide to continue the game. Either way, the league/state can decide to let it stand as is.
We are actually told every year that as game officials we can not "forfeit" a game and should never use that term. We can only "suspend" a game and the VHSL will decide what to do after that. Semnatics? Could be, but it is clarified for us on a yearly basis.

I would like to bring out the point that I thought this official did a good job getting the first foul, prior to the kerfluffle. Great job not ball watching and staying in his area.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 11:41am
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We are actually told every year that as game officials we can not "forfeit" a game and should never use that term. We can only "suspend" a game and the VHSL will decide what to do after that.
By NFHS rule, of course, this is not true. The referee is given explicit authority to forfeit a game if circumstances warrant it. State athletic associations may modify that, but for any newbies reading this thread, you do have the authority to forfeit the game, by rule.
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