Official Attacked

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I was thinking more along the lines of creating or keeping distance between myself and the player to try and descalate the situation. Obviously retaliation is not an option and it is certainly not descalating the situation.

I agree that as the adult I am held to the higher standard, but I also reserve the right to protect myself from physical injury against a "kid" that has six inches on me and is physically stronger than I am.

The "create or keep distance" is pretty much your best course of action. As far as the right to protect yourself - all I can say is that the courts in this great country sometimes have a different view of that right than we do. As a teacher, I learned long ago to never use force against a student attacking me. About the only time I can legally use physical force is if it will prevent harm to another student. That was the only acceptable defense in the situation I found myself in a number of years ago.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

As a teacher, I learned long ago to never use force against a student attacking me. .

I remember a day when teachers were not afraid of the students or afraid of what might happen if they touched them...touch? Heck, Whack the he!! out of them with big ol paddles if their hands weren't enough.

I'm not saying those were "good ol' days"...but, somewhere between there and where we are now seems more reasonable.

I guess that's one of the reasons I got out of teaching, after just one year, at the age of 23.

Rocky sounds like he has a story (or two)...well, I have one I will share.

Once upon a time...there was this young 23 year old P.E. teacher/coach coming in from track practice with his Middle School kids. Some H.S. kids were milling around the outside Locker Room entrance. (The High School and Middle School were on the same grounds, as this was a small rural school in southern Idaho.)

Well, as the young teacher was getting ready to enter the building, a H.S. kid says, "Hey dude, what's up?"...and preceded to knock the baseball cap off the young teacher's head.

Young teacher saw red...grabbed the H.S. kid by the back of his collar and not very gently at all put his head on the pavement. The H.S. kid was then directed to "pick up my hat". After some time of feeling around on the ground for the hat...his cheek was against the pavement...he found it and handed the hat over to the young teacher. The young teacher must have still been seeing red because as soon as the young teacher had hat in hand, he gave the H.S. kid a good shove against a nearby car.

Probably not the best way to handle it...and for sure this young teacher had not been taught that in his College Education Methods class...but, you know what? That H.S. troublemaker (I guess he had a rep) was a perfect gentleman every time that young teacher saw him after that. It was Mr. this and Mr. that.

I know that story could have had all kinds of bad endings...but, lucky for this young teacher...nothing came of it.

Soooo, that young teacher could have been fired...Well, this ol' basketball offical might get fired if he thinks he is in physical danger and reacts accordingly. i.e. defending one's self.

Arrested?...we'll work it out in the courts.

[Refsmitty]

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Originally Posted by rookiedude

i remember a day when teachers were not afraid of the students or afraid of what might happen if they touched them...touch? Heck, whack the he!! Out of them with big ol paddles if their hands weren't enough.

I'm not saying those were "good ol' days"...but, somewhere between there and where we are now seems more reasonable.

I guess that's one of the reasons i got out of teaching, after just one year, at the age of 23.

Rocky sounds like he has a story (or two)...well, i have one i will share.

Once upon a time...there was this young 23 year old p.e. Teacher/coach coming in from track practice with his middle school kids. Some h.s. Kids were milling around the outside locker room entrance. (the high school and middle school were on the same grounds, as this was a small rural school in southern idaho.)

well, as the young teacher was getting ready to enter the building, a h.s. Kid says, "hey dude, what's up?"...and preceded to knock the baseball cap off the young teacher's head.

Young teacher saw red...grabbed the h.s. Kid by the back of his collar and not very gently at all put his head on the pavement. The h.s. Kid was then directed to "pick up my hat". After some time of feeling around on the ground for the hat...his cheek was against the pavement...he found it and handed the hat over to the young teacher. The young teacher must have still been seeing red because as soon as the young teacher had hat in hand, he gave the h.s. Kid a good shove against a nearby car.

Probably not the best way to handle it...and for sure this young teacher had not been taught that in his college education methods class...but, you know what? That h.s. Troublemaker (i guess he had a rep) was a perfect gentleman every time that young teacher saw him after that. It was mr. This and mr. That.

I know that story could have had all kinds of bad endings...but, lucky for this young teacher...nothing came of it.

Soooo, that young teacher could have been fired...well, this ol' basketball offical might get fired if he thinks he is in physical danger and reacts accordingly. I.e. Defending one's self.

Arrested?...we'll work it out in the courts.