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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 02:04pm
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What I'm wondering is if you all would consider ending the game at this point as this crew did?
Something similar happened to my partner and he couldn't consider ending the game. Not because of physical conditions, though the attack had been more violent than that, but the stress on everybody had been very heavy.

It was reported in the papers, because it happened in a wheelchair basketball game.

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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 02:06pm
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It also gets me to thinking as to what I would do in this official's situation. I think he was clearly surprised but I'm not so sure I would just stand there either. Hard to say from the comfort of my computer screen.
I like where you're going with this. Player was wrong, no two ways about it. The official handled his business with class. Doesn't mean there isn't something valuable to be learned.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 02:28pm
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Wow. Talk about a temper tantrum. Hopefully the official wasn't injured.

If you all don't mind, let's dissect this a bit as there is a lot going on. First there is at least a common or possibly intentional foul. Then the calling official assesses what appears to be a flagrant technical on the player. After that we have at least two more flagrant technicals on the same player.

My thoughts are we assess all fouls against the player without any indirects to the head coach and the other team is shooting at least 6 shots with the lane cleared.

What I'm wondering is if you all would consider ending the game at this point as this crew did?

It also gets me to thinking as to what I would do in this official's situation. I think he was clearly surprised but I'm not so sure I would just stand there either. Hard to say from the comfort of my computer screen.
First of all, I have no idea how I'd react in that situation.

Second, I noticed that between the foul and free throws that preceded the incident that the non-calling officials didn't seem to be watching the players. That seems like a mistake, though perhaps an inconsequential one. OTOH, it may also be an indication that there wasn't anything obvious "brewing" and that what happened really came out of the blue.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 04:28pm
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First of all, I have no idea how I'd react in that situation.
Totally agree with that. You don't know until you live it.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 05:16pm
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In this situation, you should SUSPEND the game and let the powers that be decide on a forfeit. A suspension is 100% reasonable -- for many reasons -- but a forfeit can be second guessed. I'm not saying you run away from tough situations, but when there's an easy, reasonable solution that accomplishes the same thing, do it.

There's no way we are continuing this game if I'm on that crew.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 05:19pm
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To me, "suspend" vs. "forfeit" is semantics. Either way, the league/state can decide to continue the game. Either way, the league/state can decide to let it stand as is.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 06:08pm
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A better idea, lifetime ban from athletics (no college playing, no chance of going pro) He's more suited to be picking up garbage along the freeway.
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 11:25am
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To me, "suspend" vs. "forfeit" is semantics. Either way, the league/state can decide to continue the game. Either way, the league/state can decide to let it stand as is.
We are actually told every year that as game officials we can not "forfeit" a game and should never use that term. We can only "suspend" a game and the VHSL will decide what to do after that. Semnatics? Could be, but it is clarified for us on a yearly basis.

I would like to bring out the point that I thought this official did a good job getting the first foul, prior to the kerfluffle. Great job not ball watching and staying in his area.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 05:48pm
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In this situation, you should SUSPEND the game and let the powers that be decide on a forfeit. A suspension is 100% reasonable -- for many reasons -- but a forfeit can be second guessed. I'm not saying you run away from tough situations, but when there's an easy, reasonable solution that accomplishes the same thing, do it.
I'd be more inclined to go this route if I or my partner(s) decided not to continue with the game.
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Or he could go play for Tim Floyd.
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At the 23 second mark in the video, you can see that the score is 21-26 Visitors are winning and the fouls are 9 to 10. 2:30 left on the clock. I can't see the quarter, but I would say before 1/2 time.
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Hey Mark:

Game forfeited never go to overtime!
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At the 23 second mark in the video, you can see that the score is 21-26 Visitors are winning and the fouls are 9 to 10. 2:30 left on the clock. I can't see the quarter, but I would say before 1/2 time.
Correct. Before the clock faded out, I could see the "2" where the current quarter is typically located.

Plus, it's definitely the first half since both sets of the foul shots were away from that team's bench. (That is, assuming that the officials didn't permit the team to go in the wrong direction for 13½+ minutes. LMAO )
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Old Wed Dec 15, 2010, 02:39pm
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Just saw this covered on Sportscenter.
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Old Tue Dec 14, 2010, 02:36pm
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What I'm wondering is if you all would consider ending the game at this point as this crew did?
If assaulting a game official is not making "a travesty of the game", which is the grounds for forfeit, then I don't know what would be.

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