What would you do?

[ILRef80]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

there are a couple of issues here, IMHO:

1) the C should not have a whistle on block/charge plays going to the basket. these plays should be called by the Lead...because the Lead has the best view of where the defender came from, when he got there, and if he established LGP (remember, the defender that takes the charge is not the primary-on-ball-defender...it's the defender coming over from the help-side...the Lead is the only official with a good view on this play).

Crews that I work with generally give this play to the C. The protocol is that if a shooter starts in your PCA, you take them all the way in. This type of play normally ends across the paint from the lead, techinically out of his/her area. It's ok to have a double whistle in this scenario, but from my understanding, it's the C's call. YMMV.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

Crews that I work with generally give this play to the C. The protocol is that if a shooter starts in your PCA, you take them all the way in. This type of play normally ends across the paint from the lead, techinically out of his/her area. It's ok to have a double whistle in this scenario, but from my understanding, it's the C's call. YMMV.

Glad you contributed that comment as that is the protocol in the area where I work.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Glad you contributed that comment as that is the protocol in the area where I work.

Where I come from...we pre-game this to be the L's call IF it is a secondary defender in the L's primary.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Where I come from...we pre-game this to be the L's call IF it is a secondary defender in the L's primary.

Even if it is coming from C's primary and L is across the paint?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Even if it is coming from C's primary and L is across the paint?

The alternative would be...C takes first crack at contact involving both primary and secondary defenders? The C has to see two whole plays? At the same time? Based on your pseudonym, I'll assume that you are capable of doing that consistently.

But to this earth-bound mortal it makes more sense that while the C is focused on the primary defender, watching that whole play, the L picks up any secondary defender and can see that whole play. Of course, it would be better if he pinched the paint on this.

[jeffpea]

since this is a discussion board...I'll ask a question for discussion: let's assume we ALL know that a good official referees the defense.... "When at C and a drive to the basket starts in your area, what defender are you looking at?"

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

since this is a discussion board...I'll ask a question for discussion: let's assume we ALL know that a good official referees the defense.... "When at C and a drive to the basket starts in your area, what defender are you looking at?"

The primary defender. We all get that...and we all get that if a secondary defender comes across, the L should have the whistle on that.

But that's not what you said in your first post...you flat-out said that the C should NEVER have a whistle on block/charge going to the basket. And that is incorrect.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by iref4him

HS game:

I at the C position. White 23 drives the lane in my PCA. I am referring the defense. Blue 11 has a legal guarding position and gets plowed over. ...

Originally Posted by jeffpea

since this is a discussion board...I'll ask a question for discussion: let's assume we ALL know that a good official referees the defense.... "When at C and a drive to the basket starts in your area, what defender are you looking at?"

But in this scenario the OP said he was ref'n the defense and the play was in his PCA. Maybe it was a zone defense and no one was on W23 when he started his drive.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Where I come from...we pre-game this to be the L's call IF it is a secondary defender in the L's primary.

+1 with emphasis on including this in your pre-game