Spot OOB violation mechanic

[Jurassic Referee]

And the consensus from the IAABO interpreters...including my esteemed friend and another board interpreter who has served on the NFHS rules committee...is that it's a typo, the IAABO signal should be labelled the same as the NFHS signal and it should be used for 5 second throw-in violations, as always.

Looks like a mountain out of a molehill, Billy.

My thanks to the IAABO board interpreters who post here.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

It's a typo.

IAABO manuals, with this typo, went out to 200 local boards spanning 38 states and 11 foreign counties. Don't they have an editor? Didn't they ever hear about something that I learned in elementary school? It's called proofreading.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

IAABO manuals, with this typo, went out to 200 local boards spanning 38 states and 11 foreign counties. Don't they have an editor? Didn't they ever hear about something that I learned in elementary school? It's called proofreading.

Billy, do you really think more than 10 people in all those states (I'm assuming the FIBA countries got the FIBA version) noticed this before you posted it here?

And do you really think more than 1 of them actually thought to change the way he signals this violation based on that typo?

And do you really think his supervisor and rules interpreter did anything except slap him across the BillyMac and tell him to stop thinking so much?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Do you really think more than 10 people in all those states noticed this before you posted it here?

I don't care if more, or less, than ten people saw this, either before, or after, me. I have little tolerance for incompetence. And the higher that I go up the "food chain", the less I tolerate it. If I'm going to send out something to a few people, I'll give it a quick proofread. If I'm going to send something out to thousands of people, then not only will I give it a thorough proofreading, but I'll have a few others give it a thorough proofread it as well. IAABO successfully used NFHS mechanics for many, many years. The changeover to IAABO mechanics, now several years old, in my opinion, is still a mess. I still don't know why they made the change in the first place.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't care if more, or less, than ten people saw this, either before, or after, me. I hate incompetence. And the higher that I go up the "food chain", the more I hate it. If I'm going to send out something to a few people, I'll give if a quick proofread. If I'm going to send something out to thousands of people, then not only will I give it a thorough proofreading, but I'll have a few others give it a thorough proofread it as well.

If only everybody else were as thorough and detail-oriented. You're truly an exceptional person, Billy Mac. Seriously

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

If only everybody else were as thorough and detail-oriented.

I'm an analytical chemist. I have to be. It puts food on my table.

I have many faults. I sometimes, no, often, screw up. But no one will ever accuse me of being lazy, or not trying my best.

The IAABO leadership has a whole year to publish one, single manual. How hard is that to successfully accomplish? What do they do when they're not attending conventions, drinking adult beverages, and playing golf?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I'm an analytical chemist. I have to be. It puts food on my table.

I have many faults. I sometimes, no, often, screw up. But no one will ever accuse me of being lazy, or not trying my best.

The IAABO leadership has a whole year to publish one, single manual. How hard is that to successfully accomplish? What do they do when they're not attending conventions, drinking adult beverages, and playing golf?

Putting food on their tables?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't care if more, or less, than ten people saw this, either before, or after, me. I have little tolerance for incompetence. And the higher that I go up the "food chain", the less I tolerate it. If I'm going to send out something to a few people, I'll give if a quick proofread. If I'm going to send something out to thousands of people, then not only will I give it a thorough proofreading, but I'll have a few others give it a thorough proofread it as well. IAABO successfully used NFHS mechanics for many, many years. The changeover to IAABO mechanics, now several years old, in my opinion, is still a disaster. I still don't know why they made the change in the first place.

Aren't you over-reacting just a tetch, William? A disaster? Hell, I talked to 3 or 4 IAABO board interpreters and they talked to a few others. None of 'em had ever noticed the typo and no one was teaching the use of a different signal for a 5 second throw-in violation that the one that has been universally used by everyone, IAABO and non-IAABO, for umpty ump years. Great catch by you, but.....it just ain't that big a deal. And it sureasheck wasn't a big deal to any of the esteemed IAABO board interpreters either.

Chill. Santa is coming.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Aren't you over-reacting just a tetch, a disaster?

You're right. Certainly not a disaster.

But I wasn't just spouting off about the signal typo. I was spouting off about the whole switch from NFHS mechanics to IAABO mechanics. We were never told why. Never. What the heck was so bad about NFHS mechanics that we had to switch? There have been several other errors, or problems, or unannounced changes, since the switch. Some have involved out of bounds responsibilities in a half court set, and in transition. Another was an option on a front court endline throwin administration. In some cases options have been suggested, but it was never stated what mechanic the option was to. Just an option. No original mechanic.

Please note the title of my post #26. It's got a secret double meaning. Send me a self addressed, stamped envelope, and I'll send you a secret decoder ring. It's the same one the Mythbusters use.

On top of that, and this is more of a local problem than an "international" one, we have veteran officials who are still using NFHS mechanics.

Frosty Francis is rolling over in his grave.

[Adam]

How many differences are there, Billy?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't care if more, or less, than ten people saw this, either before, or after, me.

Should be "fewer." Don't you have a proofreader?

I have little tolerance for incompetence.

Don't be hating yourself.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Should be "fewer." Don't you have a proofreader?

Touché.