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parneli Sun Dec 12, 2010 08:23pm
Spot OOB violation mechanic
 
What is the proper mechanic for Violation of the OOB spot throw in by player running along the end line?

Point to spot and move your arm parallel to end line?

stiffler3492 Sun Dec 12, 2010 08:45pm
Had one yesterday. I just whistled, said "Throw-in violation", and pointed the other way.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Dec 12, 2010 08:50pm
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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 707127)
Had one yesterday. I just whistled, said "Throw-in violation", and pointed the other way.

Stiffler:

A good example of keeping it short and simple unlike many of my posts.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. I hope you are making good money from your American Pie movie residuals. :D

MelbRef Sun Dec 12, 2010 09:02pm
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Originally Posted by parneli (Post 707123)

Point to spot and move your arm parallel to end line?
Right or wrong, this is what I do.

Jurassic Referee Sun Dec 12, 2010 09:11pm
Use NFHS Signal #26- designated spot violation...of course, of course....

parneli Sun Dec 12, 2010 09:18pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 707136)
Use NFHS Signal #26- designated spot violation...of course, of course....
I knew it was in there somewhere. Just had a brain f..t and couldn't remember. I am going to enjoy winning this beer bet.

rockyroad Sun Dec 12, 2010 09:36pm
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Originally Posted by parneli (Post 707139)
I knew it was in there somewhere. Just had a brain f..t and couldn't remember. I am going to enjoy winning this beer bet.
Let me guess - someone told you that you should use the traveling signal, and now owes you a beer?!!?

parneli Sun Dec 12, 2010 09:43pm
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 707140)
Let me guess - someone told you that you should use the traveling signal, and now owes you a beer?!!?
Yes, Informed the "older timer" than I that there is no traveling out of bounds. I can taste it now, but what goes around comes around. --maybe a real good micro brew--- yes, that sounds very tasty

PG_Ref Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 707136)
Use NFHS Signal #26- designated spot violation...of course, of course....
Or the IAABO mechanic on page 198

Jurassic Referee Mon Dec 13, 2010 01:10pm
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Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 707207)
<font color = red>Or if you're from an IAABO board</font> use the IAABO mechanic on page 198
Fixed it for ya.

"Or" ain't an option for the great majority of officials who are non-IAABO members.

Is the IAABO mechanic different than the NFHS signal?

PG_Ref Mon Dec 13, 2010 03:20pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 707212)
Fixed it for ya.

"Or" ain't an option for the great majority of officials who are non-IAABO members.

Is the IAABO mechanic different than the NFHS signal?
Pretty much the same ... I guess it depends on how you look at the cartoon man :cool:

BillyMac Mon Dec 13, 2010 05:57pm
From The IAABO Manual ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 707212)
Is the IAABO mechanic different than the NFHS signal?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/...8617c592_m.jpg

I just realized something. For thirty years I've been giving the wrong signal for a five second throwin violation. I've always given the five finger open hand signal, the same signal we use for a five second closely guarded violation. I've only used the signal above for designated spot, or throwin player onto the court, throwin violations. According to the IAABO manual were supposed to give the same signal, above, for all throw in violations.

Comments?

DLH17 Mon Dec 13, 2010 06:00pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 707257)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/...8617c592_m.jpg

I just realized something. For thirty years I've been giving the wrong signal for a five second throwin violation. I've always given the five finger open hand signal, the same signal we use for a five second closely guarded violation. I've only used the signal above for designated spot, or throwin player onto the court, throwin violations. According to the IAABO manual and, I believe, the NFHS manual, were supposed to give the same signal, above, for all throw in violations.

Comments?
Maybe use the official Fed mechanic followed by an open hand "5 count" solely for the benefit of the coach who's player committed the violation since he/she probably won't have a clue what the proper mechanic is communicating?

Jurassic Referee Mon Dec 13, 2010 06:26pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 707257)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/...8617c592_m.jpg

I just realized something. For thirty years I've been giving the wrong signal for a five second throwin violation. I've always given the five finger open hand signal, the same signal we use for a five second closely guarded violation. I've only used the signal above for designated spot, or throwin player onto the court, throwin violations. According to the IAABO manual and, I believe, the NFHS manual, were supposed to give the same signal, above, for all throw in violations.

Comments?
I just realized something. You think waaaaaaaay too much.

See NFHS signal 24.

BillyMac Mon Dec 13, 2010 06:50pm
Stupid IAABO Mechanics ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 707265)
See NFHS signal 24.
Similar signal in the IAABO mechanics manual says "Five Seconds Closely Guarded". There is no "Five Second Violation" (like NFHS Signal 24) in the IAABO manual.


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