Player repeatedly shoots at wrong basket

[Loudwhistle]

5-6 game, player shoots three times at the other teams basket in about 8 seconds time since the throwin. Each time same player gets their own "rebound" (not a try I know that), on the first rebound should a whistle be sounded and then double dribble? I've seen this many times but not multiple attempts at making it in opponents basket.

[just another ref]

Had he already used his "real" dribble? If so, throw and catch off opponents' board, violation. If not, violation after the second time.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

5-6 game, player shoots three times at the other teams basket in about 8 seconds time since the throwin. Each time same player gets their own "rebound" (not a try I know that), on the first rebound should a whistle be sounded and then double dribble? I've seen this many times but not multiple attempts at making it in opponents basket.

LoudWhistle:

Where do I begin because there are so many scenarios that can unfold in this situatioin.

1) I am going to assume that when A1 threw the ball at Team B's basket the first time he had not dribbled the ball prior to his throwing the ball at Team B's basket.

2a) If A1 HAD NOT established a pivot and both feet were in contact with the court when he releashed his throw at Team B's basket, his throwing the ball at Team B's basket is nothing more that the start of a dribble for A1, you should maintain your ten second backcourt count.

2b) If A1 HAD established a pivot and both feet were in contact with the court when he releashed his throw at Team B's basket, his throwing the ball at Team B's basket is nothing more that the start of a dribble for A1, you should maintain your ten second backcourt count.

3a) If, in both 2a and 2b, A1 jumped before releasing the ball towards Team B's basket, one must have a patient whistle while maintaining your ten second backcourt count. If any player other than A1 were to touch the ball next, then A1 has done nothing more than released the ball on a pass; maintain your ten second count until the ball becomes dead or a player from Team B has gained player control of the ball.

3b) If, in both 2a and 2b, A1 jumped before releasing the ball towards Team B's basket, one must have a patient whistle while maintaining your ten second backcourt count. If A1 was the first player to touch the ball next, then A1 has committed a traveling violation.

4) If A1 had dribbled the ball prior to his throwing the ball at Team B's basket, maintain your ten second backcourt count and have a patient whistle. If any player other than A1 were to touch the ball next, then A1 has done nothing more than released the ball on a pass; maintain your ten second count until the ball becomes dead or a player from Team B has gained player control of the ball. AND, if A1 was the first player to touch the ball next, then A1 has dribbled the ball for a second time and has committed a violation.

MTD, Sr.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Had he already used his "real" dribble? If so, throw and catch off opponents' board, violation. If not, violation after the second time.

+1

Plus, as Mark points out, depending on the movement of the pivot foot prior to the release of the "shot," you could have a travel as soon as A1 touches the ball first.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

LoudWhistle:

Where do I begin because there are so many scenarios that can unfold in this situatioin.

1) I am going to assume that when A1 threw the ball at Team B's basket the first time he had not dribbled the ball prior to his throwing the ball at Team B's basket.

2a) If A1 HAD NOT established a pivot and both feet were in contact with the court when he releashed his throw at Team B's basket, his throwing the ball at Team B's basket is nothing more that the start of a dribble for A1, you should maintain your ten second backcourt count.

2b) If A1 HAD established a pivot and both feet were in contact with the court when he releashed his throw at Team B's basket, his throwing the ball at Team B's basket is nothing more that the start of a dribble for A1, you should maintain your ten second backcourt count.

3a) If, in both 2a and 2b, A1 jumped before releasing the ball towards Team B's basket, one must have a patient whistle while maintaining your ten second backcourt count. If any player other than A1 were to touch the ball next, then A1 has done nothing more than released the ball on a pass; maintain your ten second count until the ball becomes dead or a player from Team B has gained player control of the ball.

3b) If, in both 2a and 2b, A1 jumped before releasing the ball towards Team B's basket, one must have a patient whistle while maintaining your ten second backcourt count. If A1 was the first player to touch the ball next, then A1 has committed a traveling violation.

4) If A1 had dribbled the ball prior to his throwing the ball at Team B's basket, maintain your ten second backcourt count and have a patient whistle. If any player other than A1 were to touch the ball next, then A1 has done nothing more than released the ball on a pass; maintain your ten second count until the ball becomes dead or a player from Team B has gained player control of the ball. AND, if A1 was the first player to touch the ball next, then A1 has dribbled the ball for a second time and has committed a violation.

MTD, Sr.

#4 is what happened, odd situation because in this league there is no guarding in the backcourt so two kids from the same team were only down at the opponents rim, one was obviously confused

Thanks for the responses