UCLA vs. KU game

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I was there twice this past week.

And here is part of the proof. Quincy High School

Peace

That one picture shows more fans than I have at 80% of my games.

I think they're saying "Now that's a great official!"

By the way, I am hoping for the day when the "longs" (can't call them shorts) on players like the one in the picture will be passe'!

[ajs8207]

I always hate the saying that the officials decided the game. The UCLA player fouled the shooter. The officials didn't decide the game, that player did.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Seddy

You're right, Jurassic. I'll hang up my whistle. My stance that this is a give-or-take call is completely way off base. That's why it's included in headlines across the country this morning....

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No way in hell you are an official. Your ignorance of backcourt and travelling rules proves that out.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Seddy

You're right, Jurassic. I'll hang up my whistle. My stance that this is a give-or-take call is completely way off base. That's why it's included in headlines across the country this morning....

RIP, Ron Santo! Oh wait, I can't say that. I'm a Cardinals' fan.

By the way, you owe me an answer to my question on your most recent thread.

Why wouldn't it be?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

By the way, you owe me an answer to my question on your most recent thread.

Why wouldn't it be?

Well Snaqs, don't hold your breath b/c I would miss your contributions to the forum.

This 7 year high school official won't be answering any of those types of questions.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well Snaqs, don't hold your breath b/c I would miss your contributions to the forum.

This 7 year high school official won't be answering any of those types of questions.

Well, I thought I'd give him the chance to explain why he had such a basic question; especially now that I "know" he's been working high school ball for 7 years.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Seddy

Nope, just a coach understandably frustrated with a ticky-tack call deciding a game in which his kids fought hard throughout and battled back to tie.

The problem with refs wanting to hide behind the "a foul is a foul is a foul" argument and make the art of officiating black and white is the fact that this call literally decided the game. I guarantee you that similar "fouls" earlier in the game were let go. I'd venture a guess that there's a part of the official (Doug Sirmons) who wishes he hadn't blown his whistle.

This post sounds like a fan boy complaining because his team lost.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. Rock Chalk, Jayhawk, Kaaaayyyyy UUUUUUUUU!!!!

[dbking]

I am amazed that all of you have watched this video and no one has mentioned that there was a double whistle on this play!

Watch T in the video. He is running to the play with a fist in the air.

BTW, I am not a Rock Chalker.

[APG]

Originally Posted by dbking

I am amazed that all of you have watched this video and no one has mentioned that there was a double whistle on this play!

Watch T in the video. He is running to the play with a fist in the air.

BTW, I am not a Rock Chalker.

Good find. You can clearly see the trail official with a fist up when the contact occurs.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Good find. You can clearly see the trail official with a fist up when the contact occurs.

But I'm sure the T would like to take that whistle back if he had a second chance.

[Rob1968]

Our assignor wants us, as T or C, to stay with the play such as this one, that crosses the court, to the other side of the lane. The fact that T had a call on this play seems consistent with that idea.
A second thought: I study the game not just in the books, but by watching parts of as many college games as I can. Some of the best officials have become recognizable, and that's the case with this game.
Finally, with a video such as this one, I watch it from the camera angle, but try to imagine what the view was from the calling official's position. From the camera angle, on this play, at the speed of the game, it's difficult to make a firm judgement. But from the position of either T or C, the call is apparent.
I guess that's why we work the games from the floor and not the stands. . .

[Nevadaref]

Ben Howland contacts NCAA about foul


By Peter Yoon
ESPNLosAngeles.com
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UCLA coach Ben Howland said Saturday that he spoke with John Adams, the NCAA coordinator of men's basketball officials, about the foul called against Malcolm Lee. in the waning moments of the Bruin's 77-76 loss Thursday at Kansas.



"I gave them my two cents," Howland said. "But the game is over. They won, we lost. We're moving forward now. Bad calls happen it's just unfortunate it would happen at that point in the game where it would decide a game."
The score was tied, 76-76, with less than a second remaining when Lee was called for a questionable foul that sent Kansas' Mario Little to the free throw line. He made one with 0.7 seconds to play and Kansas won the game.
Adams told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that Doug Sirmons, the official who blew the whistle, made the right call.
"The refs reacted properly," said Adams said. "The only argument you can make is whether or not it was a foul. It's a foul. The Kansas kid has control of the ball. It's incredibly unfortunate to end the game like that. But I've looked at the tape this morning and Doug called the foul like he's supposed to."
Howland said he received several phone calls expressing sympathy, but is content to have spoken his peace and is ready to put that game behind him.
"It's over," Howland said. "There's no going back and changing anything. We had a six-point lead in the second half. We've got to do a better job being able to handle that. That's the biggest thing."

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The idea that you shouldn't call this because a no-call sends it into overtime is just stupid.
Thinking it's probably a foul but wanting to no-call it because you'll get less grief is just cowardly.

Be careful, you're starting to sound like someone I know.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Be careful, you're starting to sound like someone I know.

Heh, I wondered if that would catch your attention.

[Nevadaref]

Welcome to the club. I'll make sure you get a copy of the newsletter and our secret decoder ring.