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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 02:18pm
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Live ball dead ball question

My partners and I are having trouble with this question on a rules quiz. In which of the following situations do you have a live ball?

a) When a whistle sounds after the ball has been released on a try (whistle is not for a player control foul)
b) When a free thrower catches a ball from the administering official
c) After a basket and the official begins administering the 5 second count
d) All of the above are live ball

For a the rule book says it is a dead ball when the official's whistle is blown except while a tap or try is in flight so a appears live. For b it does not mention it specifically in the rule book but it does mention a ball becomes dead when a FT is made or when it is apparent it will be missed when it is to be followed by a throw in or another FT. So that leads me to believe b is live. For C a ball becomes live when at disposal of thrower. So I would say all of the above.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 02:22pm
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NFHS rules 6-1-2 and 6-7EXCEPTION(a) answers all questions.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 02:27pm
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Also try 6-7-5, read the Exceptions
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 06:54pm
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What about . . . ?

The question on that test that really begs analysis is the one about the player with a red jersey and green undershirt. As a taker of this particular test, any opinion of that one?
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:00pm
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:00pm
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Read the rule on disposal as well. 4-4-7
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:30pm
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The question on that test that really begs analysis is the one about the player with a red jersey and green undershirt. As a taker of this particular test, any opinion of that one?
My opinion is that we should follow the applicable rule.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 07:33pm
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My opinion is that we should follow the applicable rule.
And that's the only valid opinion on that particular question.
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 09:06pm
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The question on that test that really begs analysis is the one about the player with a red jersey and green undershirt.
How much analysis does that really need???
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Old Wed Dec 01, 2010, 09:09pm
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The question on that test that really begs analysis is the one about the player with a red jersey and green undershirt. As a taker of this particular test, any opinion of that one?
Well, if it's a Christmas tournament...
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 07:06am
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How much analysis does that really need???
Sorry for the cryptic reply.
It was a question on a state test which offered no correct answer, as far as I could discern, and I was hoping he'd offer it as a response or new thread.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 08:21am
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It was a question on a state test which offered no correct answer, as far as I could discern, and I was hoping he'd offer it as a response or new thread.
How could there not be a correct answer to such a fairly basic question like that one?
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 11:41am
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The question on that test that really begs analysis is the one about the player with a red jersey and green undershirt. As a taker of this particular test, any opinion of that one?
Well, since nobody has given the analysis, here goes. By rule, the situation you describe cannot exist. A player is one of the 5 team members legally participating in the game. Since the question says the team member is wearing a red jersey and green undershirt, that person is not allowed to become a player. In order to participate in the game, the team member must remove the green undershirt. If s/he wishes to wear an undershirt it must be similar in color to the game jersey (i.e., red).

This is not a situation where the team member is allowed to participate at the expense of a technical foul.

AND -- s/he better leave the visual confines of the court to take off the undershirt.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 11:51am
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Well, since nobody has given the analysis, here goes. By rule, the situation you describe cannot exist. A player is one of the 5 team members legally participating in the game. Since the question says the team member is wearing a red jersey and green undershirt, that person is not allowed to become a player. In order to participate in the game, the team member must remove the green undershirt. If s/he wishes to wear an undershirt it must be similar in color to the game jersey (i.e., red).

This is not a situation where the team member is allowed to participate at the expense of a technical foul.

AND -- s/he better leave the visual confines of the court to take off the undershirt.
Hmmm. What if they are able to remove the undershirt without removing the jersey?
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 04:45pm
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Hmmm. What if they are able to remove the undershirt without removing the jersey?
You know, as soon as I hit "submit", I knew somebody was going to ask that. That would legal.
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