Video review question on block charge

[drofficial]

I am not getting pissy. But, true, I don't see how anyone reviewing this play could make the case that the defender illegal extends a leg into the path of the dribbler. The rule book is clear that if there is contact into the torso of the defender (after the defender established legal guarding position), the offensive player is responsible. And that is exactly what we have on this play.

I'd like to hear other opinions.

[Adam]

It's not a hard and fast rule that torso contact = a charge. Do you have the exact wording?

[Adam]

ok, just watched the video. I would defer to the official on the floor with position. He can see that opposite-side leg better than we can; and whether the knee is sticking out into the shooter's path. Really hard to tell from our angle, however.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by snaqwells

it's not a hard and fast rule that torso contact = a charge.

+1

[GoodwillRef]

First of all, the video using the word "Flex" makes me chuckle. Second, I think this is a mechanics issues...we don't make calls in rotation for this exact reason. The center offical has a great look at this drive and play. I would like the lead to stop in the paint when the drive from the "C" side starts.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by drofficial

I am not getting pissy. But, true, I don't see how anyone reviewing this play could make the case that the defender illegal extends a leg into the path of the dribbler.
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From that video, you can't tell for certain either way but the movements of the defender suggest that is the case. Given the location of the lead, he had a view 10 times better than the camera angle.

Originally Posted by drofficial

The rule book is clear that if there is contact into the torso of the defender (after the defender established legal guarding position), the offensive player is responsible. And that is exactly what we have on this play.

I'd like to hear other opinions.

Uh, no. It doesn't. Contact that creates an advantage for the offensive player/team is a foul, not contact alone. As others have said, a falling defender (sort of faking the foul) is much less likely to be disadvantaged by contact than a defender who is continuing to actually play defense.