Quick Charge/Block Question

A1 is driving the lane. Going to the rim, B1 is standing in front of A1. A1 jumps for a layup, B1 jumps straight up in the air and clearly affects A1's shot/layup. Is this a foul on B1, or a no call? I know if B1 doesn't move his feet, it would be a charge, but since B1 left his feet to jump staright up, is this a foul or no? Thanks ahead of time for any help.

[bob jenkins]

B1 is entitled to his vertical space -- even as he jumps straight up.


that said, I didn't see anything in your post that indicates a foul.

Okay, thanks a lot.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by bob jenkins
B1 is entitled to his vertical space -- even as he jumps straight up.


that said, I didn't see anything in your post that indicates a foul.

Bob's totally right, but I feel a need to be female this morning and chatter on a bit.

First of all, if there's no body or arm contact, there's no foul, regardless of which direction B1 jumps. If all he gets is ball and perhpas a very small amount of hand, ya got nothin'.

Secondly, there can be some contact in the air without a foul if A1 leaves the floor relatively close to B1, they both go more or less straight up, but the effect on the ball is only from B1 getting a good firm tip.

Third, once B1 has stopped forward motion in front of A1, and is "firming up" to get ready for impact or to jump up to the ball, don't look away from the defense. If A1 comes into the play, it's easy to see if you keep your eyes on B1. If B1 jumps up but forward, thus fouling, it's easy to see, if you haven't diverted your attention to A1. Remember, ref the defense.

[TPS2859]

I agree with bob, but why not a charge call on A1?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by BBallinRick
I know if B1 doesn't move his feet, it would be a charge,...

Actually, whether B1 moves his feet our not has nothing to do with it. As long as he has position prior to A1 leaving the floor, his feet do not have to remain set.

Originally posted by rainmaker
Bob's totally right, but I feel a need to be female this morning and chatter on a bit.

What is it that women love about details?

Originally posted by TPS2859
I agree with bob, but why not a charge call on A1?

Because the post doesn't say that B1 was displaced.

Here's another question. Say A1 is making a pass to A2, but in the middle of the pass, B1 (the defender) sticks his leg out and stops the ball with his knee. Is this a kickball? Is a kickball using any part of the leg? Sorry for these questions, I'm not an offical, just a fan who likes to know the rules Thanks.

[TimTaylor]

Originally posted by BBallinRick
Here's another question. Say A1 is making a pass to A2, but in the middle of the pass, B1 (the defender) sticks his leg out and stops the ball with his knee. Is this a kickball? Is a kickball using any part of the leg? Sorry for these questions, I'm not an offical, just a fan who likes to know the rules Thanks.

As you describe it (defender intentionally sticks his leg out to block the pass), yes it is a kicked ball. The rule has been intentional contact with any part of the leg from the knee down, but the rule changes for 04/05 have expanded the definition to "any part of the leg".

Okay, thanks a lot.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by BBallinRick

Sorry for these questions, I'm not an offical, just a fan who likes to know the rules Thanks.

No problem, you are a refreshing change from the fans who like to THINK they know the rules.

[Jimgolf]

Originally posted by rainmaker

If all he gets is ball and perhaps a very small amount of hand, ya got nothin'.

A lot more than a very small amount of hand is permitted.

In NFHS, at least, "He/she shall not contact an opponent with his/her hand unless such contact is only with the opponent's hand while it is on the ball and is incidental to an attempt to play the ball." (10-6-1)

Also, "It is legal use of the hands to reach to block or slap the ball controlled by a dribbler or a player throwing for a goal or a player holding it and accidentally hitting the hand of the opponent when it is in contact with the ball."

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

What is it that women love about details?

You know, right off the top of my head, I'm not sure. Let's look at the question a little more closely...