Clock/Time question

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

A1 is fouled in the act of shooting just prior to the horn sounding to signal the end of the quarter.


It is impossible to say based on simply this one sentence whether the horn sounded or not. The only thing that is certain is that the foul occurred before the horn. Wording like this is certainly not unheard of on test questions.

I disagree. To state that event A to occurs before event B implies that event B does occur. The statement establishes an order of events, not a hypothetical order of possible events.

[tigertater]

Thanks for all of the replies..............and just as I suspected, the answers all seemed to be valid and somewhat different........much like our discussions at our meetings.

rwest -

Thanks for clarifying that point. It makes perfect sense to me, and I don't have any issues following the directive and putting the .3 on the clock. The only thing that is bothersome is the attempt to clarify this with some of the coaches. As was pointed out by another poster, it's not a good idea for a coach to pull out a rule book unless he/she wants to give up standing ...but at the same time, with nothing in print, it sounds rather flimsy to have to rely on the "we were told this at camp" explanation.

Oh well.............it is what it is.

Thanks again.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by tigertater

Thanks for all of the replies..............and just as I suspected, the answers all seemed to be valid and somewhat different........much like our discussions at our meetings.

rwest -

Thanks for clarifying that point. It makes perfect sense to me, and I don't have any issues following the directive and putting the .3 on the clock. The only thing that is bothersome is the attempt to clarify this with some of the coaches. As was pointed out by another poster, it's not a good idea for a coach to pull out a rule book unless he/she wants to give up standing ...but at the same time, with nothing in print, it sounds rather flimsy to have to rely on the "we were told this at camp" explanation.

Oh well.............it is what it is.

Thanks again.

A better way to address the coach is that it is a GHSA mechanic and that you won't find it in the rule book. It is a state adoption. If he doesn't like it and persists give him the stop sign (I know not an unofficial mechanic, but it is what we are told to do in my Association) and if he persists after that ask if he wants cookies with his T. That last part is a joke. Not T'ing up, but the cookies part.

What association are you with?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I disagree. To state that event A to occurs before event B implies that event B does occur. The statement establishes an order of events, not a hypothetical order of possible events.

I tend to agree, since the horn is mentioned.

I would still prefer that it had said:

A1 is fouled in the act of shooting, immediately after which the horn sounds, signaling the end of the period.

[just another ref]

I actually was in on a similar situation regarding end of the game or not.

horn?