Backcourt Violation or not?

[jritchie]

Girls gradeschool situation: A1 steals ball heads towards basket, B1 chasing from behind catches up to A1 around free throw line and back tips ball causing ball to go off A1's knee and then line drive off the back board, ball bounces all the way over center line, and A2 finally coming back up the court picks up ball and starts dribbling? Violation?????

Last to touch front court(A1 Knee) , first to touch in backcourt A2. Violation right?

Crazy girls basketball!!!

[Terrance "TJ"]

I would be inclined to say so. But I would I hope that I never got something like that either.

I don't remember the girls team when I was younger having those crazy situations. Of course, it was a small town and the only public court was the cement slab on the school playground and we all played together. Guys got to learn girl ball and the younger girls got to play playground guy ball.

[APG]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Girls gradeschool situation: A1 steals ball heads towards basket, B1 chasing from behind catches up to A1 around free throw line and back tips ball causing ball to go off A1's knee and then line drive off the back board, ball bounces all the way over center line, and A2 finally coming back up the court picks up ball and starts dribbling? Violation?????

Last to touch front court(A1 Knee) , first to touch in backcourt A2. Violation right?

Crazy girls basketball!!!

The way I'm envisioning this is that A1, in A's frontcourt, has the ball go off A1's knee, then off A's backboard, then into the backcourt. A2 gets the ball after it has gone into the backcourt and starts dribbling.

The play would be a backcourt violation. All four criteria were met.

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

The way I'm envisioning this is that A1, in A's frontcourt, has the ball go off A1's knee, then off A's backboard, then into the backcourt. A2 gets the ball after it has gone into the backcourt and starts dribbling.

The play would be a backcourt violation. All four criteria where met.

Maybe you may want to consider the ball off the knee/hitting the backboard an attenpt for a try? That way it would not be a back court violation.
I have seen the Globetrotters attempt some crazy shots.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Maybe you may want to consider the ball off the knee/hitting the backboard an attenpt for a try? That way it would not be a back court violation.
I have seen the Globetrotters attempt some crazy shots.

I don't know whether you're being serious or not about it being a try. In case you are not, I would have a hard time ever seeing this type of play being considered a try.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't know whether you're being serious or not about it being a try. In case you are not, I would have a hard time ever seeing this type of play being considered a try.

I can very easily see it. Is/was A1 in a habitual shooting motion when the ball was tipped? The fact that the ball hit the backboard may be an indication that she was bringing the ball up when it was tipped. A1 is getting ready to start the habitual lay up motion. As she is about to gather the ball it is tipped from behind and contiunes the upward motion of the shot.
Food for thought.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I can very easily see it. Is/was A1 in a habitual shooting motion when the ball was tipped? The fact that the ball hit the backboard may be an indication that she was bringing the ball up when it was tipped. A1 is getting ready to start the habitual lay up motion. As she is about to gather the ball it is tipped from behind and contiunes the upward motion of the shot.
Food for thought.

Where's the part about the knee?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Where's the part about the knee?

Hey, are you saying a MS girl's habitual shooting motion doesn't involve her knee?

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't know whether you're being serious or not about it being a try. In case you are not, I would have a hard time ever seeing this type of play being considered a try.

It's a joke. Lighten up Francis

[Judtech]

If they are going in for a lay up HOPEFULLY they will raise the knee, as the ball hits the knee. Thus you have habitual shooting motion.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

It's a joke. Lighten up Francis

Haha...like I said, I wasn't sure!

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Judtech

If they are going in for a lay up HOPEFULLY they will raise the knee, as the ball hits the knee. Thus you have habitual shooting motion.

Last time I checked, the typical JH girl's layup motion starts several steps closer to the basket than the FT line. It's obvious from the OP description that the B player tipped a DRIBBLE into A's knee.

[rwest]

He did say grade school. So I would think this is an elementary game. At least when I was in grade school it was elementary. If that is the case anythings possible. It could have been a shot attempt.

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[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

The way I'm envisioning this is that A1, in A's frontcourt, has the ball go off A1's knee, then off A's backboard, then into the backcourt. A2 gets the ball after it has gone into the backcourt and starts dribbling.

The play would be a backcourt violation. All four criteria were met.

I agree with your ruling 100%. And since I have agreed with your ruling, no one will ever pay attention to your posts again, .

MTD, Sr.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Hey, are you saying a MS girl's habitual shooting motion doesn't involve her knee?

Yes, a MS girl's habitual shooting motion involves her knee...


...in soccer.