Mechanics you use

[JRutledge]

I am not a fan of that which is why I do not do it. What I will do is not come out looking for such things either. If we see it we call it. Most of the time I have to tell kids to stay off the rim because they are close instead of having to call something at all. I am just trying to start the game with a jump ball, not penalize a kid for something iffy. Then again that is me and it has worked that way for years.

Peace

[Judtech]

But what is a dunk? Sure we all know the 2 handed rim rocker with the player swinging from the rim is a dunk. But what about the 'finger roll' dunk? You know the kid who lays the ball over the front of the rim, then tries to grab the rim so people THINK he dunked?? Or what if the player is above the rim and as he drops it down into the basket, his hand/wrists bump into the rim but they do not grasp it???
Ok, I dont see this much on the NCAA W side, and I can neither confirm not deny personally participating in ANY of the above posted scenarios!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

But what is a dunk? Sure we all know the 2 handed rim rocker with the player swinging from the rim is a dunk. But what about the 'finger roll' dunk? You know the kid who lays the ball over the front of the rim, then tries to grab the rim so people THINK he dunked?? Or what if the player is above the rim and as he drops it down into the basket, his hand/wrists bump into the rim but they do not grasp it???

See NFHS rule 4-16. The player has or attempt to drive, force or push the ball down. That's all you need to know. Judgment call. Any doubt, don't call it. Simply dropping the ball down has never been a "T".

Grabbing the ring is a technical foul also. Touching the ring isn't unless you feel that the player is doing so deliberately to vibrate the basket/backboard and put on a show. Handle with care.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

See NFHS rule 4-16. The player has or attempt to drive, force or push the ball down. That's all you need to know. Judgment call. Any doubt, don't call it. Simply dropping the ball down has never been a "T".

Grabbing the ring is a technical foul also. Touching the ring isn't unless you feel that the player is doing so deliberately to vibrate the basket/backboard and put on a show. Handle with care.

Yes yes, but is it a DUNK?!?! Ground bound hoopsters the world around are dying to know!!

[FrankHtown]

One other mechanic used in Texas is no long switches in the backcourt. If Old lead going to new trail calls a foul in the backcourt, he/she stays there and administers the throw-in, if not in the bonus.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

One other mechanic used in Texas is no long switches in the backcourt. If Old lead going to new trail calls a foul in the backcourt, he/she stays there and administers the throw-in, if not in the bonus.

Thanks Frank.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Yes yes, but is it a DUNK?!?! Ground bound hoopsters the world around are dying to know!!

Are you serious?

If so, what part of "Judgment call. Any doubt, don't call it. Simply dropping the ball down has never been a 'T'" is confusing you?

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Are you serious?

If so, what part of "Judgment call. Any doubt, don't call it. Simply dropping the ball down has never been a 'T'" is confusing you?

You are just avoiding the question because you don't know the answer!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

You are just avoiding the question because you don't know the answer!

Well, I realize that you don't see many dunks in those D3 womens games that you do. And I also realize that good boys high school varsity teams plays in the air a heckuva lot more than those womens teams also. But if you didn't know that dropping the ball down at any level isn't a dunk, or what comprises a "dunk", then I suggest you talk to some people in your area that can explain to you exactly what a "dunk" is and what to look for.

Good luck.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

See NFHS rule 4-16. The player has or attempt to drive, force or push the ball down. That's all you need to know. Judgment call. Any doubt, don't call it. Simply dropping the ball down has never been a "T".

Grabbing the ring is a technical foul also. Touching the ring isn't unless you feel that the player is doing so deliberately to vibrate the basket/backboard and put on a show. Handle with care.

This is why I tell them to knock that off when they are putting the ball in the hole that way. I just do not want someone to forget or get up their and feel they need to hang on the rim for any reason.

Peace

[CaRef5]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is why I tell them to knock that off when they are putting the ball in the hole that way. I just do not want someone to forget or get up their and feel they need to hang on the rim for any reason.

Peace

I'm with you on this. PLAYERS know what a dunk is, WE know what a dunk is, so long as the dunk is not a "rim rocker" then I would not take notice. Common sense stuff imo

[Scrapper1]

Not sure what a dunk is? Try Define Dunk

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Judtech

But is it a dunk?!?! Ground bound hoopsters the world around are dying to know.

Originally Posted by CaRef5

Players know what a dunk is, we know what a dunk is. Common sense stuff.

"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description "dunk"; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the dunk involved in this case is not that."

Apologies to Justice Potter Stewart and William Jefferson Clinton.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description "dunk"; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the dunk involved in this case is not that."

Apologies to Justice Potter Stewart and William Jefferson Clinton.

We have a winner!!
I thought you were going with: I won't comment on something I have no experience in!

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by CaRef5

I'm with you on this. PLAYERS know what a dunk is, WE know what a dunk is, so long as the dunk is not a "rim rocker" then I would not take notice. Common sense stuff imo

Not trying to be a jerk here, just wondering ...

What happens if you get a rim rocker during warm ups, properly penalize it, and the "offending" coach says to you, "What about the dunk THEY made 2 minutes ago? Why didn't they get a T?", referring to a non-rim rocker at the other end? Do you just not consider it a dunk unless it is a rim rocker? Or do you have a tool in your bag of useful responses to address letting a soft one go while penalizing the rim rockers?