Officials are role models?

[justacoach]

I suffered thru all the instructional videos and nearly lost my lunch where a partner came to offer help on the OOB. Original call, BLUE!. Partner inserts himself and says, "Tipped off white, tipped off white"
partner says "White"

WTF?

[All_Heart]

It looks like to me that the video is scripted and that the players are not actually playing a game. They are setting up plays for the officials to call for the video.
On the 1st play where the official calls a block, he has no partner in trail. So he is either reffing solo or these are set up scripted plays. The contact on the play was extremely marginal and the offensive player looks like she misses on purpose.
#Edit# Okay never mind I just saw the video for "Working by yourself" and the above clip came from it. So he WAS working by himself and that contact WAS marginal #Edit#


Most of these "training" videos are ! The production and quality are good but the content is wrong in a number of ways.

[JRutledge]

I think a group of people got together to do a video and probably did not have someone review the material from an educated point of view. So just like regular movies you have inconsistencies in actual real interactions. Nice try but as you can tell many of us found things we would never do or say. Like stop play just to warn a player for 3 second. I do not call that violation let alone stop play to warn someone. After all that is a real game interruptor.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

After all that is a real game interruptor.

And if you did that, you'd be suffering from gamus interruptus!

[tomegun]

Those videos are horrible.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Nice try but as you can tell many of us found things we would never do or say.

I checked out the website and found a section on signals. The official in the video does at least two things that I found odd.

For a held ball he first stops the clock with an open hand and then follows with the held ball "thumbs up" signal. Here in our little corner of Connecticut we just give the "thumbs up" signal.

To call a technical foul he first stops the clock with an open hand, and then follows with the "T" signal. Here we stop the clock with the closed fist foul signal and then follow with the "T" signal.

Comments from other parts of the country?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I checked out the website and found a section on signals. The official in the video does at least two things that I found odd.

For a held ball he first stops the clock with an open hand and then follows with the held ball "thumbs up" signal. Here in our little corner of Connecticut we just give the "thumbs up" signal.

To call a technical foul he first stops the clock with an open hand, and then follows with the "T" signal. Here we stop the clock with the closed fist foul signal and then follow with the "T" signal.

Comments from other parts of the country?

The official is odd because he's not using NFHS approved and accepted signalling.

The "thumbs up" signal ...#3 of approved NFHS signals in the rule book...is captioned "stop clock for jump/held ball". He's telling you to signal to stop the clock twice iow.

All foul signals should be preceded by signal #5- "stop clock for fouls".

Not the best site for accuracy, fer sure.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Comments from other parts of the country?

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The official is odd because he's not using NFHS approved and accepted signaling.

Thanks.

Didn't realize that Hell was part of the National Federation.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks.

Didn't realize that Hell was part of the National Federation.

It's what the "H" in what "NFHS" stands for.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I checked out the website and found a section on signals. The official in the video does at least two things that I found odd.

For a held ball he first stops the clock with an open hand and then follows with the held ball "thumbs up" signal. Here in our little corner of Connecticut we just give the "thumbs up" signal.

To call a technical foul he first stops the clock with an open hand, and then follows with the "T" signal. Here we stop the clock with the closed fist foul signal and then follow with the "T" signal.

Comments from other parts of the country?

I've personally have never seen anyone use a preceding signal before using the jump ball signal. Always just straight to the jump ball signal.

As far as technical fouls go, I've also never seen anyone go with the foul signal before a technical foul. It's either a stop clock signal or straight to the "T".

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

As far as technical fouls go, I've also never seen anyone go with the foul signal before a technical foul.

Agree. In the real world I've seen almost all officials in my local area go straight to the "T" signal, including probably me. I can't be sure about myself because whenever I give technical foul, which is seldom, I'm usually pretty pissed off, and emotions take precedent over remembering what I've done, and, of course, if I've done it correctly.

But according to the book, by the numbers, for the purpose of a test, or an evaluation, I believe that we're always supposed to stop the clock with a signal first. Since a technical foul is indeed, a foul, then we should stop the clock first with a closed fist.

After all, if we don't signal to stop the clock with an open fist signal (violation), closed fist signal (foul), or thumbs up signal (held ball), then the clock operator won't know when to stop the clock, the clock would keep running, and our crew would be out of there in record time. Of course this would mean more time after the game to consume adult beverages. Hey. Wait a minute. I think I'm onto something here?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. In the real world I've seen almost all officials in my local area go straight to the "T" signal, including probably me. I can't be sure about myself because whenever I give technical foul, which is seldom, I'm usually pretty pissed off, and emotions take precedent over remembering what I've done, and, of course, if I've done it correctly.

While not "T" happy, I certainly give my share. As I've been taught, I try to stay emotionless and take care of bidness. After all, it's just another foul, right?

That being said, I go right to the "T", with no fist in the air. I know it's not "by the book" as you state, but, I've never had an issue.....so far.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

whenever I give technical foul, which is seldom

Obviously, this isn't me. OK - when I give one while the clock is running, I give the stop clock signal first. When I give one while the clock isn't running, of course I just give the WHACK signal.

BTW - this is how I get the most exercise.