Summer Ball - all this fun and I get paid too?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

(such that it would have probably been a foul if A1 had brought his defender into him at that moment)

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Please clarify this.
From this description, it seems that B1 is a stationary defender requiring no time or distance for a screen from the side, NOT from the back.
If the screener comes to a stop prior to the contact, I don't understand why you state that this would be a foul according to the rules.

As it was, B1 was stationary and no time/distance was required but the statement had an "if". If A1 had, instead, moved to the left it would have probably caused B1 to move left. A4 was not yet stationary (was moving toward B1), B1 would have run into him, and the screen would have been illegal.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

As it was, B1 was stationary and no time/distance was required but the statement had an "if". If A1 had, instead, moved to the left it would have probably caused B1 to move left. A4 was not yet stationary (was moving toward B1), B1 would have ran into him, and the screen would have been illegal.

I see. A classic case of failing to wait for the screener to reach his position.


Note: Visit from the Grammar Police. I just couldn't fend them off.

[GoodwillRef]

How I love when they say And 1, I had that twice last night. I told the kid next time I hear him say it, it will be an And 1...count the basket and we will have a technical on him. It got really quiet!

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

How I love when they say And 1, I had that twice last night. I told the kid next time I hear him say it, it will be an And 1...count the basket and we will have a technical on him. It got really quiet!

Why?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Why?

attempting to influence an official's decision? I don't put up with "and one" from players either.

[Smitty]

Really? That's a stretch. Is it really 'T' worthy?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Really? That's a stretch. Is it really 'T' worthy?

What else do you think they're doing? They're trying to get you to call the foul. It's the same as players making the traveling signal. I'll ignore it a few times, depending whether they're looking at me when they do it. I usually don't see it often enough in one game to worry about it, but I'm not going to put up with it any longer than a coach's "three seconds" pleas.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

attempting to influence an official's decision? I don't put up with "and one" from players either.

Should players get Teed up for pointing in their direction on OOB violations that are bang bang ?

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Why?

I hate that AND 1 crap...basically I am just throwing out an idle threat...not really going to whack him. It did the trick!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I hate that AND 1 crap...basically I am just throwing out an idle threat...not really going to whack him. It did the trick!

There was an official around here named Jeff (unfortunately, he passed away a while back) who, the first time a coach or player would say "And 1", would reply loudly "Don't give me any of that 'And 1' crap". As far as I know, it always worked.

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Why?

Had one last night where A1 drives to the basket, B1 blocks the shot, no contact whatsoever, but as B2 recovers the ball and they head the other way, A1 turns to me and says, "You gotta call something!!" WHACK! Team A coach says, "How can you T him up for that, that was the first thing he has said all game?" This made me smile on the inside.

Point being, I put up with zero comments like this from players during summer ball. Just because their HS coach isn't there is no excuse for them to act disrespectful. I may not have T'd him if there was some contact that I deemed incidental, or if it wasn't specifically directed at me and said a little more quietly. As with the "And 1" stuff, you just cannot ignore it. Say something to nip it, or take care of it.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by AustinRef

As with the "And 1" stuff, you just cannot ignore it.

I can and I do. I've never had it get to the point where I had to say anything. Shrug.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I can and I do. I've never had it get to the point where I had to say anything. Shrug.

same here...it's really no big deal