Summer Ball - all this fun and I get paid too?

[Smitty]

Really? That's a stretch. Is it really 'T' worthy?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Really? That's a stretch. Is it really 'T' worthy?

What else do you think they're doing? They're trying to get you to call the foul. It's the same as players making the traveling signal. I'll ignore it a few times, depending whether they're looking at me when they do it. I usually don't see it often enough in one game to worry about it, but I'm not going to put up with it any longer than a coach's "three seconds" pleas.

[Smitty]

I don't know if it's worthy of a 'T' is all I'm saying. It's easy enough to ignore for me. It's just white noise. I suppose if every single shot someone was yelling it, I might have a chat with that kid, but that's an extreme example.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I don't know if it's worthy of a 'T' is all I'm saying. It's easy enough to ignore for me. It's just white noise. I suppose if every single shot someone was yelling it, I might have a chat with that kid, but that's an extreme example.

Right, and it's the extreme example you tend to see in summer ball or middle school ball, when johnny thinks he's Kobe Bryant or Ray Allen.

And I've never had to T for it, but I have made it clear that he/she needs to cut it out.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I don't know if it's worthy of a 'T' is all I'm saying. It's easy enough to ignore for me. It's just white noise. I suppose if every single shot someone was yelling it, I might have a chat with that kid, but that's an extreme example.

It also depends on the tone of voice that is used during the "AND 1" statement! At times it borders on unsporting behavior.

[mutantducky]

after one of my games. fairly casual game with about 10 fouls called on the losing team and 5 on the winning team.
losing coach--- "you did a great job"
losing and winning fans-- "nice game ref"
winning coach "you sucked"

me "huh" I think it was because his team nearly gave up a 10 point lead with a minute to go and they choked a few games last year in the 4th so probably brought back bad memories.
Well, see you in the regular season buddy. I think he had the most Techs last year. Going to enjoy T'ing him up.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

Well, see you in the regular season buddy. I think he had the most Techs last year. Going to enjoy T'ing him up.

Lah me......

Real officials forget all about comments like that. Everybody starts fresh the next game.

You're in the wrong avocation, Mutant. You should have never crawled out of the stands.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Real officials forget all about comments like that.

Agree. However, it nice to hear postive comments from a losing coach. I just don't let it go to my head.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Everybody starts fresh the next game.

...provided you don't wear stripes.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

...provided you don't wear stripes.

That's part of our job and we have to expect that from some of the people that we have to deal with.

What comes up, we deal with. But we don't go looking. And we shouldn't have any pre-conceived ideas of how we should deal with a problem.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Lah me......

Real officials forget all about comments like that. Everybody starts fresh the next game.

I am going to disagree with this. We are still talking about human beings here and anytime someone treats you with disrespect that should not be simply forgotten. Now as an official we might not go out and look for them to mess up the next time, but whatever happens the coaches do not forget, so we should not forget either. As a matter of fact the fact that I remember makes me handle the next situation differently. But I would not say they are on a clean slate, they just have my attention as they probably did not before.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

As a matter of fact the fact that I remember makes me handle the next situation differently.

And I completely disagree with an attitude like that. Imo you should try to treat the next situation exactly the same way that you treat every situation. You react to that particular situation based only on what happens during that particular situation. And all coaches(good and bad) should always be treated exactly the same as any other coach, no matter what happened in the past.

As officials, what we personally think of any participant in a game should never have any bearing on any call that we make or influence us to do something that we would normally not do in similar situations. It's human nature to maybe like or dislike someone for varying reasons, but that should never be a factor imo in anything that we do during a game.

A comment like "going to enjoy T'ing him up" sends the wrong message to anyone that believes that officials should be neutral and have short memories. I've had good, level-headed coaches blow up at me when I screwed up a call at a critical point in a game. I deal with it and then forget it. There's no need ever to treat the dickhead coaches any differently imo.

Fair's fair.