Things I learned at camp

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by DLH17

I had a varsity boys coach go ballistic on me over the weekend when I called a foul on one of his guys for putting hand on the ballhandler's hip and keeping it there from the 3 point line all the way to the block.

He gave me (and this was a first for me) the big "PHOOEY ON YOU" - turned head and waved hand at me.

It was awesome, I must say.

If he SAID that, I certainly hope you T'd him up. He showed you up big time.

The gesture alone might or might not deserve it.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by mbyron

If he SAID that, I certainly hope you T'd him up. He showed you up big time.

The gesture alone might or might not deserve it.

I whacked a coach this season for that. He asked for an explanation, I started to give him one and then he gave me the dismissive wave. I channeled my inner-Snaqs and brewed some T.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbyron

If he SAID that, I certainly hope you T'd him up. He showed you up big time.

The gesture alone might or might not deserve it.

mbryon - he did not say those words. That's the only way I can think of to describe his arm/hand wave.

I'm curious how others here on the forum might have handled the situation based on the info provided.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

mbryon - he did not say those words. That's the only way I can think of to describe his arm/hand wave.

I'm curious how others here on the forum might have handled the situation based on the info provided.

HTBT... that could be T-worthy ... and might not be as well.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

HTBT... that could be T-worthy ... and might not be as well.

For you, would it depend on the level of theatrics involved? Or something else?

In my sitch, he was in the coaches box - not stomping around like a fool. Just went from audibly arguing the call to giving the arm wave.

It took me a little off guard, mainly because it's freaking summer ball. But, he more or less "moved on" after doing it.

No further issues arose.

[MD Longhorn]

"Theatrics" - perhaps more visual than what I meant, but close enough. I mean - if it was derisive, or over the top, it's more likely a T than if it's just a minimal gesture from far away.

It would also depend on how the game has gone so far... if he's been beligerent the whole game, this might be the tipping point. If he's been an angel - I might be inclined to let more go.

Either way - you were there, I wasn't. HTBT. I think I'm inclined to go with whatever you felt was right in the circumstance.

[CLH]

Originally Posted by dlh17

mbryon - he did not say those words. That's the only way i can think of to describe his arm/hand wave.

I'm curious how others here on the forum might have handled the situation based on the info provided.

whack!

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by mbyron

If he SAID that, I certainly hope you T'd him up. He showed you up big time.

I don't know. The image I have is that "Phooey on you" is almost too silly to be taken seriously. I might be too astonishedly amused to call the T.

Thanks to Hornets and Jurassic for the explanations. Jurassic, your asterisks strike me curious, though.

[DLH17]

Good feedback.

Let's elevate this a little bit and insert this situation into a regular season and/or post season varsity game.

Same logic applies? Or, does the levity, etc of the game change things a bit?

[Adam]

To me, it's one of the triggers that can bring an ABS T. Or, in Welpe's case, when you are giving the coach the explanation he has asked for and he gives you the hand in the middle of it; fire away.

[asdf]

His action of visibly waving you off was not intended for you, but for those in attendance.

He just told everybody that he has no respect for you.

Have a seat coach.......

[CLH]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Good feedback.

Let's elevate this a little bit and insert this situation into a regular season and/or post season varsity game.

Same logic applies? Or, does the levity, etc of the game change things a bit?

You were given the post season assignment because whoever gave it to you trusts you for your judgment, consistency, and mangement style...Why would you change the standards by which you work? A technical foul is the same in every game. No way on earth I'd change my tolerance or standards because this is a so called "big game."

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Jurassic, your asterisks strike me curious, though.

Deal with it.

[KenThree]

He gave you what everyone in my house knows as the b-s wave.

My wife knows the b-s wave when she sees it; my kids know the b-s wave they see it. And when they see it happen at a game I am ref-ing, they know what's happening next.

It shows complete disrespect for what you're doing out there and that any reasonable communication with the coach is not possible. He simply is telling you to "go fry ice"

Take care of it.